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Becket Qin
The website is awesome! I really like its conciseness and yet fairly useful information and functionalities. I cannot think of much to improve at the moment. Just one thought, do we need an "others" category, just in case a package does not fit into any of the current given categories?

Thanks Robert and Daryl for the great effort. Looking forward to seeing this get published soon!!

I agree with Marta that 

Jiangjie (Becket) Qin

On Sat, Jul 20, 2019 at 1:34 AM Marta Paes Moreira <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hey, Robert.

I will keep an eye on the overall progress and get started on the blog post
to make the community announcement. Are there (mid-term) plans to
translate/localize this website as well? It might be a point worth
mentioning in the blogpost.

Hats off to you and Daryl — this turned out amazing!

Marta

On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 10:57 AM Congxian Qiu <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> Robert and Daryl, thanks for the great work, I tried the website and filed
> some issues on Github.
> Best,
> Congxian
>
>
> Robert Metzger <[hidden email]> 于2019年7月17日周三 下午11:28写道:
>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> Daryl and I have great news to share. We are about to finish adding the
>> basic features to the ecosystem page.
>> We are at a stage where it is ready to be reviewed and made public.
>>
>> You can either check out a development instance of the ecosystem page
>> here: https://flink-ecosystem-demo.flink-resources.org/
>> Or you run it locally, with the instructions from the README.md:
>> https://github.com/sorahn/flink-ecosystem
>>
>> Please report all issues you find here:
>> https://github.com/sorahn/flink-ecosystem/issues or in this thread.
>>
>> The next steps in this project are the following:
>> - We fix all issues reported through this testing
>> - We set up the site on the INFRA resources Becket has secured [1], do
>> some further testing (including email notifications) and pre-fill the page
>> with some packages.
>> - We set up a packages.flink.apache.org or flink.apache.org/packages
>> domain
>> - We announce the packages through a short blog post
>>
>> Happy testing!
>>
>> Best,
>> Robert
>>
>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18010
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 6:23 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the update, Robert. Looking forward to the website. If there
>>> is already a list of software we need to run the website, we can ask Apache
>>> infra team to prepare the VM for us, as that may also take some time.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 11:57 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey all,
>>>>
>>>> quick update on this project: The frontend and backend code have been
>>>> put together into this repository:
>>>> https://github.com/sorahn/flink-ecosystem
>>>> We also just agreed on an API specification, and will now work on
>>>> finishing the backend.
>>>>
>>>> It will probably take a few more weeks for this to finish, but we are
>>>> making progress :)
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Robert
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 11:18 AM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hey Daryl,
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks a lot for posting a link to this first prototype on the mailing
>>>>> list! I really like it!
>>>>>
>>>>> Becket: Our plan forward is that Congxian is implementing the backend
>>>>> for the website. He has already started with the work, but needs at least
>>>>> one more week.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [Re-sending this email because the first one was blocked on [hidden email]]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 7:59 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Daryl,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks a lot for the update. The site looks awesome! This is a great
>>>>>> progress. I really like the conciseness of GUI.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One minor suggestion is that for the same library, there might be
>>>>>> multiple versions compatible with different Flink versions. It would be
>>>>>> good to show that somewhere in the project page as it seems important to
>>>>>> the users.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BTW, will you share the plan to move forward? Would additional hands
>>>>>> help?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 7:10 PM Daryl Roberts <[hidden email]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > Shall we add a guide page to show people how to publish their
>>>>>>> projects to the website? The exact rules can be discussed and drafted in a
>>>>>>> separate email thread IMO
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is a good idea. (Both the guise, and separate thread), I think
>>>>>>> once there is an actual packed in place we’ll be in a lot better position
>>>>>>> to discuss this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > The "Log in with Github" link doesn't seem to work yet. Will it
>>>>>>> only allow login for admins and publishers, or for everyone?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Correct, all the oauth stuff requires a real server. We are
>>>>>>> currently just faking everything.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I will add a mock-login page (username/password that just accepts
>>>>>>> anything and displays whatever username you type in) so we can see the
>>>>>>> add-comment field and add-packages page once they exist.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Create a Flink ecosystem website

Becket Qin
[Sorry for the incomplete message. Clicked send by mistake...]

I agree with Marta that it might be good to have multi-language support as a mid-term goal.

Jiangjie (Becket) Qin

On Sat, Jul 20, 2019 at 11:22 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:
The website is awesome! I really like its conciseness and yet fairly useful information and functionalities. I cannot think of much to improve at the moment. Just one thought, do we need an "others" category, just in case a package does not fit into any of the current given categories?

Thanks Robert and Daryl for the great effort. Looking forward to seeing this get published soon!!

I agree with Marta that 

Jiangjie (Becket) Qin

On Sat, Jul 20, 2019 at 1:34 AM Marta Paes Moreira <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hey, Robert.

I will keep an eye on the overall progress and get started on the blog post
to make the community announcement. Are there (mid-term) plans to
translate/localize this website as well? It might be a point worth
mentioning in the blogpost.

Hats off to you and Daryl — this turned out amazing!

Marta

On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 10:57 AM Congxian Qiu <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> Robert and Daryl, thanks for the great work, I tried the website and filed
> some issues on Github.
> Best,
> Congxian
>
>
> Robert Metzger <[hidden email]> 于2019年7月17日周三 下午11:28写道:
>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> Daryl and I have great news to share. We are about to finish adding the
>> basic features to the ecosystem page.
>> We are at a stage where it is ready to be reviewed and made public.
>>
>> You can either check out a development instance of the ecosystem page
>> here: https://flink-ecosystem-demo.flink-resources.org/
>> Or you run it locally, with the instructions from the README.md:
>> https://github.com/sorahn/flink-ecosystem
>>
>> Please report all issues you find here:
>> https://github.com/sorahn/flink-ecosystem/issues or in this thread.
>>
>> The next steps in this project are the following:
>> - We fix all issues reported through this testing
>> - We set up the site on the INFRA resources Becket has secured [1], do
>> some further testing (including email notifications) and pre-fill the page
>> with some packages.
>> - We set up a packages.flink.apache.org or flink.apache.org/packages
>> domain
>> - We announce the packages through a short blog post
>>
>> Happy testing!
>>
>> Best,
>> Robert
>>
>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18010
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 6:23 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the update, Robert. Looking forward to the website. If there
>>> is already a list of software we need to run the website, we can ask Apache
>>> infra team to prepare the VM for us, as that may also take some time.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 11:57 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey all,
>>>>
>>>> quick update on this project: The frontend and backend code have been
>>>> put together into this repository:
>>>> https://github.com/sorahn/flink-ecosystem
>>>> We also just agreed on an API specification, and will now work on
>>>> finishing the backend.
>>>>
>>>> It will probably take a few more weeks for this to finish, but we are
>>>> making progress :)
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Robert
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 11:18 AM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hey Daryl,
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks a lot for posting a link to this first prototype on the mailing
>>>>> list! I really like it!
>>>>>
>>>>> Becket: Our plan forward is that Congxian is implementing the backend
>>>>> for the website. He has already started with the work, but needs at least
>>>>> one more week.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [Re-sending this email because the first one was blocked on [hidden email]]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 7:59 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Daryl,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks a lot for the update. The site looks awesome! This is a great
>>>>>> progress. I really like the conciseness of GUI.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One minor suggestion is that for the same library, there might be
>>>>>> multiple versions compatible with different Flink versions. It would be
>>>>>> good to show that somewhere in the project page as it seems important to
>>>>>> the users.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BTW, will you share the plan to move forward? Would additional hands
>>>>>> help?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 7:10 PM Daryl Roberts <[hidden email]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > Shall we add a guide page to show people how to publish their
>>>>>>> projects to the website? The exact rules can be discussed and drafted in a
>>>>>>> separate email thread IMO
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is a good idea. (Both the guise, and separate thread), I think
>>>>>>> once there is an actual packed in place we’ll be in a lot better position
>>>>>>> to discuss this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > The "Log in with Github" link doesn't seem to work yet. Will it
>>>>>>> only allow login for admins and publishers, or for everyone?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Correct, all the oauth stuff requires a real server. We are
>>>>>>> currently just faking everything.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I will add a mock-login page (username/password that just accepts
>>>>>>> anything and displays whatever username you type in) so we can see the
>>>>>>> add-comment field and add-packages page once they exist.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Create a Flink ecosystem website

rmetzger0
Thanks a lot Marta for offering to write a blog post about the community site!

I'm not sure if multi-language support for the site is a good idea. I see the packages site as something similar to GitHub or Jira. The page itself contains very view things we could actually translate. The package owners usually are only able to provide one or two languages for their package description.
For the comments, we don't want disjoint discussions to happen.

I've also kicked off a discussion with Apache legal on the initiative [1]. We might not be able to host this at Apache, but let's see where the discussion goes.




On Sat, Jul 20, 2019 at 5:25 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:
[Sorry for the incomplete message. Clicked send by mistake...]

I agree with Marta that it might be good to have multi-language support as a mid-term goal.

Jiangjie (Becket) Qin

On Sat, Jul 20, 2019 at 11:22 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:
The website is awesome! I really like its conciseness and yet fairly useful information and functionalities. I cannot think of much to improve at the moment. Just one thought, do we need an "others" category, just in case a package does not fit into any of the current given categories?

Thanks Robert and Daryl for the great effort. Looking forward to seeing this get published soon!!

I agree with Marta that 

Jiangjie (Becket) Qin

On Sat, Jul 20, 2019 at 1:34 AM Marta Paes Moreira <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hey, Robert.

I will keep an eye on the overall progress and get started on the blog post
to make the community announcement. Are there (mid-term) plans to
translate/localize this website as well? It might be a point worth
mentioning in the blogpost.

Hats off to you and Daryl — this turned out amazing!

Marta

On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 10:57 AM Congxian Qiu <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> Robert and Daryl, thanks for the great work, I tried the website and filed
> some issues on Github.
> Best,
> Congxian
>
>
> Robert Metzger <[hidden email]> 于2019年7月17日周三 下午11:28写道:
>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> Daryl and I have great news to share. We are about to finish adding the
>> basic features to the ecosystem page.
>> We are at a stage where it is ready to be reviewed and made public.
>>
>> You can either check out a development instance of the ecosystem page
>> here: https://flink-ecosystem-demo.flink-resources.org/
>> Or you run it locally, with the instructions from the README.md:
>> https://github.com/sorahn/flink-ecosystem
>>
>> Please report all issues you find here:
>> https://github.com/sorahn/flink-ecosystem/issues or in this thread.
>>
>> The next steps in this project are the following:
>> - We fix all issues reported through this testing
>> - We set up the site on the INFRA resources Becket has secured [1], do
>> some further testing (including email notifications) and pre-fill the page
>> with some packages.
>> - We set up a packages.flink.apache.org or flink.apache.org/packages
>> domain
>> - We announce the packages through a short blog post
>>
>> Happy testing!
>>
>> Best,
>> Robert
>>
>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18010
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 6:23 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the update, Robert. Looking forward to the website. If there
>>> is already a list of software we need to run the website, we can ask Apache
>>> infra team to prepare the VM for us, as that may also take some time.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 11:57 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey all,
>>>>
>>>> quick update on this project: The frontend and backend code have been
>>>> put together into this repository:
>>>> https://github.com/sorahn/flink-ecosystem
>>>> We also just agreed on an API specification, and will now work on
>>>> finishing the backend.
>>>>
>>>> It will probably take a few more weeks for this to finish, but we are
>>>> making progress :)
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Robert
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 11:18 AM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hey Daryl,
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks a lot for posting a link to this first prototype on the mailing
>>>>> list! I really like it!
>>>>>
>>>>> Becket: Our plan forward is that Congxian is implementing the backend
>>>>> for the website. He has already started with the work, but needs at least
>>>>> one more week.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [Re-sending this email because the first one was blocked on [hidden email]]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 7:59 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Daryl,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks a lot for the update. The site looks awesome! This is a great
>>>>>> progress. I really like the conciseness of GUI.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One minor suggestion is that for the same library, there might be
>>>>>> multiple versions compatible with different Flink versions. It would be
>>>>>> good to show that somewhere in the project page as it seems important to
>>>>>> the users.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BTW, will you share the plan to move forward? Would additional hands
>>>>>> help?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 7:10 PM Daryl Roberts <[hidden email]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > Shall we add a guide page to show people how to publish their
>>>>>>> projects to the website? The exact rules can be discussed and drafted in a
>>>>>>> separate email thread IMO
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is a good idea. (Both the guise, and separate thread), I think
>>>>>>> once there is an actual packed in place we’ll be in a lot better position
>>>>>>> to discuss this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > The "Log in with Github" link doesn't seem to work yet. Will it
>>>>>>> only allow login for admins and publishers, or for everyone?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Correct, all the oauth stuff requires a real server. We are
>>>>>>> currently just faking everything.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I will add a mock-login page (username/password that just accepts
>>>>>>> anything and displays whatever username you type in) so we can see the
>>>>>>> add-comment field and add-packages page once they exist.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Create a Flink ecosystem website

Oytun Tez
I agree with Robert – localization (this is what we do at MotaWord) is a maintenance work. If not maintained as well as mainstream, it will only damage and distant devs that use those local websites.

Re: comments, I don't think people will really discuss furiously. But we at least need a system where we understand the popularity of a package, it helps to pick among similar packages if any. Something like the popularity figure here that we can fetch from somewhere: https://mvnrepository.com/popular

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On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 5:07 AM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]> wrote:
Thanks a lot Marta for offering to write a blog post about the community site!

I'm not sure if multi-language support for the site is a good idea. I see the packages site as something similar to GitHub or Jira. The page itself contains very view things we could actually translate. The package owners usually are only able to provide one or two languages for their package description.
For the comments, we don't want disjoint discussions to happen.

I've also kicked off a discussion with Apache legal on the initiative [1]. We might not be able to host this at Apache, but let's see where the discussion goes.




On Sat, Jul 20, 2019 at 5:25 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:
[Sorry for the incomplete message. Clicked send by mistake...]

I agree with Marta that it might be good to have multi-language support as a mid-term goal.

Jiangjie (Becket) Qin

On Sat, Jul 20, 2019 at 11:22 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:
The website is awesome! I really like its conciseness and yet fairly useful information and functionalities. I cannot think of much to improve at the moment. Just one thought, do we need an "others" category, just in case a package does not fit into any of the current given categories?

Thanks Robert and Daryl for the great effort. Looking forward to seeing this get published soon!!

I agree with Marta that 

Jiangjie (Becket) Qin

On Sat, Jul 20, 2019 at 1:34 AM Marta Paes Moreira <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hey, Robert.

I will keep an eye on the overall progress and get started on the blog post
to make the community announcement. Are there (mid-term) plans to
translate/localize this website as well? It might be a point worth
mentioning in the blogpost.

Hats off to you and Daryl — this turned out amazing!

Marta

On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 10:57 AM Congxian Qiu <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> Robert and Daryl, thanks for the great work, I tried the website and filed
> some issues on Github.
> Best,
> Congxian
>
>
> Robert Metzger <[hidden email]> 于2019年7月17日周三 下午11:28写道:
>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> Daryl and I have great news to share. We are about to finish adding the
>> basic features to the ecosystem page.
>> We are at a stage where it is ready to be reviewed and made public.
>>
>> You can either check out a development instance of the ecosystem page
>> here: https://flink-ecosystem-demo.flink-resources.org/
>> Or you run it locally, with the instructions from the README.md:
>> https://github.com/sorahn/flink-ecosystem
>>
>> Please report all issues you find here:
>> https://github.com/sorahn/flink-ecosystem/issues or in this thread.
>>
>> The next steps in this project are the following:
>> - We fix all issues reported through this testing
>> - We set up the site on the INFRA resources Becket has secured [1], do
>> some further testing (including email notifications) and pre-fill the page
>> with some packages.
>> - We set up a packages.flink.apache.org or flink.apache.org/packages
>> domain
>> - We announce the packages through a short blog post
>>
>> Happy testing!
>>
>> Best,
>> Robert
>>
>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18010
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 6:23 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the update, Robert. Looking forward to the website. If there
>>> is already a list of software we need to run the website, we can ask Apache
>>> infra team to prepare the VM for us, as that may also take some time.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 11:57 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey all,
>>>>
>>>> quick update on this project: The frontend and backend code have been
>>>> put together into this repository:
>>>> https://github.com/sorahn/flink-ecosystem
>>>> We also just agreed on an API specification, and will now work on
>>>> finishing the backend.
>>>>
>>>> It will probably take a few more weeks for this to finish, but we are
>>>> making progress :)
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Robert
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 11:18 AM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hey Daryl,
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks a lot for posting a link to this first prototype on the mailing
>>>>> list! I really like it!
>>>>>
>>>>> Becket: Our plan forward is that Congxian is implementing the backend
>>>>> for the website. He has already started with the work, but needs at least
>>>>> one more week.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [Re-sending this email because the first one was blocked on [hidden email]]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 7:59 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Daryl,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks a lot for the update. The site looks awesome! This is a great
>>>>>> progress. I really like the conciseness of GUI.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One minor suggestion is that for the same library, there might be
>>>>>> multiple versions compatible with different Flink versions. It would be
>>>>>> good to show that somewhere in the project page as it seems important to
>>>>>> the users.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BTW, will you share the plan to move forward? Would additional hands
>>>>>> help?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 7:10 PM Daryl Roberts <[hidden email]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > Shall we add a guide page to show people how to publish their
>>>>>>> projects to the website? The exact rules can be discussed and drafted in a
>>>>>>> separate email thread IMO
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is a good idea. (Both the guise, and separate thread), I think
>>>>>>> once there is an actual packed in place we’ll be in a lot better position
>>>>>>> to discuss this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > The "Log in with Github" link doesn't seem to work yet. Will it
>>>>>>> only allow login for admins and publishers, or for everyone?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Correct, all the oauth stuff requires a real server. We are
>>>>>>> currently just faking everything.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I will add a mock-login page (username/password that just accepts
>>>>>>> anything and displays whatever username you type in) so we can see the
>>>>>>> add-comment field and add-packages page once they exist.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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