[DISCUSS] Create a Flink ecosystem website

[rmetzger0]

Thanks.

Do we actually want this page to be multi-language?

I propose to make the website english-only, but maybe consider allowing comments in different languages.

If we would make it multi-language, then we might have problems with people submitting packages in non-english languages.

 

On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 2:42 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:

Done. The writeup looks great!

On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 9:09 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]> wrote:

Nice, really good news on the INFRA front!

I think the hardware specs sound reasonable. And a periodic backup of the website's database to Infra's backup solution sounds reasonable too.

Can you accept and review my proposal for the website?

On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 3:47 PM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> I have a very capable and motivated frontend developer who would be
> willing to implement what I've mocked in my proposal.


That is awesome!

I created a Jira ticket[1] to Apache Infra and got the reply. It looks that
Apache infra team could provide a decent VM. The last piece is how to
ensure the data is persisted so we won't lose the project info / user
feedbacks when the VM is down. If Apache infra does not provide a
persistent storage for DB backup, we can always ask for multiple VMs and do
the fault tolerance by ourselves. It seems we can almost say the hardware
side is also ready.

Thanks,

Jiangjie (Becket) Qin

[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18010

On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 5:39 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Thank you for reaching out to Infra and the ember client.
> When I first saw the Ember repository, I thought it is the whole thing
> (frontend and backend), but while testing it, I realized it is "only" the
> frontend. I'm not sure if it makes sense to adjust the Ember observer
> client, or just write a simple UI from scratch.
> I have a very capable and motivated frontend developer who would be
> willing to implement what I've mocked in my proposal.
> In addition, I found somebody (Congxian Qiu) who seems to be eager to help
> with this project for the backend:
> https://github.com/rmetzger/flink-community-tools/issues/4
>
> For Infra: I made the same experience when asking for more GitHub
> permissions for "flinkbot": They didn't respond on their mailing list, only
> on Jira.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 2:45 PM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for writing up the specifications.
>>
>> Regarding the website source code, Austin found a website[1] whose
>> frontend code[2] is available publicly. It lacks some support (e.g login),
>> but it is still a good starting point. One thing is that I did not find a
>> License statement for that source code. I'll reach out to the author to see
>> if they have any concern over our usage.
>>
>> Apache Infra has not replied to my email regarding some details about the
>> VM. I'll open an infra Jira ticket tomorrow if there is still no response.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>
>> [1] https://emberobserver.com/
>> [2] https://github.com/emberobserver/client
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 1:35 AM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> @Bowen: I agree. Confluent Hub looks nicer, but it is on their company
>>> website. I guess the likelihood that they give out code from their company
>>> website is fairly low.
>>> @Nils: Beam's page is similar to our Ecosystem page, which we'll
>>> reactivate as part of this PR:
>>> https://github.com/apache/flink-web/pull/187
>>>
>>> Spark-packages.org did not respond to my request.
>>> I will propose a short specification in Becket's initial document.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 11:38 AM Niels Basjes <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> The Beam project has something in this area that is simply a page
>>>> within their documentation website:
>>>> https://beam.apache.org/documentation/sdks/java-thirdparty/
>>>>
>>>> Niels Basjes
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 11:39 PM Bowen Li <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Confluent hub for Kafka is another good example of this kind. I
>>>> personally like it over the spark site. May worth checking it out with
>>>> Kafka folks
>>>> >
>>>> > On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 6:06 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Absolutely! Thanks for the pointer. I'll submit a PR to update the
>>>> >> ecosystem page and the navigation.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Thanks,
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 8:47 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> > Okay. I will reach out to spark-packages.org and see if they are
>>>> willing
>>>> >> > to share.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Do you want to raise a PR to update the ecosystem page (maybe sync
>>>> with
>>>> >> > the "Software Projects" listed here:
>>>> >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/Powered+by+Flink)
>>>> and
>>>> >> > link it in the navigation?
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Best,
>>>> >> > Robert
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 10:13 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >> Hi Robert,
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> I think it at least worths checking if spark-packages.org owners
>>>> are
>>>> >> >> willing to share. Thanks for volunteering to write the requirement
>>>> >> >> descriptions! In any case, that will be very helpful.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Since a static page has almost no cost, and we will need it to
>>>> redirect
>>>> >> >> to the dynamic site anyways, how about we first do that while
>>>> working on
>>>> >> >> the dynamic website?
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Thanks,
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 4:59 AM Ufuk Celebi <[hidden email]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >>> I like Shaoxuan's idea to keep this a static site first. We
>>>> could then
>>>> >> >>> iterate on this and make it a dynamic thing. Of course, if we
>>>> have the
>>>> >> >>> resources in the community to quickly start with a dynamic site,
>>>> I'm
>>>> >> >>> not apposed.
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>> – Ufuk
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 2:31 PM Robert Metzger <
>>>> [hidden email]>
>>>> >> >>> wrote:
>>>> >> >>> >
>>>> >> >>> > Awesome! Thanks a lot for looking into this Becket! The VMs
>>>> hosted by
>>>> >> >>> Infra
>>>> >> >>> > look suitable.
>>>> >> >>> >
>>>> >> >>> > @Shaoxuan: There is actually already a static page. It used to
>>>> be
>>>> >> >>> linked,
>>>> >> >>> > but has been removed from the navigation bar for some reason.
>>>> This is
>>>> >> >>> the
>>>> >> >>> > page: https://flink.apache.org/ecosystem.html
>>>> >> >>> > We could update the page and add it back to the navigation bar
>>>> for the
>>>> >> >>> > coming weeks. What do you think?
>>>> >> >>> >
>>>> >> >>> > I would actually like to push for a dynamic page right away.
>>>> >> >>> >
>>>> >> >>> > I know it's kind of a bold move, but how do you feel about
>>>> sending the
>>>> >> >>> > owners of spark-packages.org a short note, if they are
>>>> interested in
>>>> >> >>> > sharing the source? We could maintain the code together in a
>>>> public
>>>> >> >>> repo.
>>>> >> >>> > If they are not interested in sharing, or we decide not to ask
>>>> in the
>>>> >> >>> first
>>>> >> >>> > place, I'm happy to write down a short description of the
>>>> requirements,
>>>> >> >>> > maybe some mockups. We could then see if we find somebody here
>>>> in the
>>>> >> >>> > community who's willing to implement it.
>>>> >> >>> > Given the number of people who are eager to contribute, I
>>>> believe we
>>>> >> >>> will
>>>> >> >>> > be able to find somebody pretty soon.
>>>> >> >>> >
>>>> >> >>> >
>>>> >> >>> > On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 3:49 AM Becket Qin <
>>>> [hidden email]>
>>>> >> >>> wrote:
>>>> >> >>> >
>>>> >> >>> > > Forgot to provide the link...
>>>> >> >>> > >
>>>> >> >>> > > [1] https://www.apache.org/dev/services.html#blogs (Apache
>>>> infra
>>>> >> >>> services)
>>>> >> >>> > > [2] https://www.apache.org/dev/freebsd-jails (FreeBSD Jail
>>>> provided
>>>> >> >>> by
>>>> >> >>> > > Apache Infra)
>>>> >> >>> > >
>>>> >> >>> > > On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 10:46 AM Becket Qin <
>>>> [hidden email]>
>>>> >> >>> wrote:
>>>> >> >>> > >
>>>> >> >>> > >> Hi Robert,
>>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>> >> >>> > >> Thanks for the feedback. These are good points. We should
>>>> absolutely
>>>> >> >>> > >> shoot for a dynamic website to support more interactions in
>>>> the
>>>> >> >>> community.
>>>> >> >>> > >> There might be a few things to solve:
>>>> >> >>> > >> 1. The website code itself. An open source solution would
>>>> be great.
>>>> >> >>> TBH,
>>>> >> >>> > >> I do not have much experience on building a website. It'll
>>>> be great
>>>> >> >>> if
>>>> >> >>> > >> someone could help comment on the solution here.
>>>> >> >>> > >> 2. The hardware to host the website. Apache Infra provides
>>>> a few
>>>> >> >>> > >> services[1] that Apache projects can leverage. I did not see
>>>> >> >>> database
>>>> >> >>> > >> service, but maybe we can run a simple MySQL db in FreeBSD
>>>> jail[2].
>>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>> >> >>> > >> @Bowen & vino, thanks for the positive feedback!
>>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>> >> >>> > >> @Shaoxuan Wang <[hidden email]>
>>>> >> >>> > >> Thanks for the suggestion. That sounds reasonable to me. We
>>>> >> >>> probably need
>>>> >> >>> > >> a page in the Flink official site anyways, even just
>>>> provide links
>>>> >> >>> it to
>>>> >> >>> > >> the ecosystem website. So listing the connectors in that
>>>> static
>>>> >> >>> page seems
>>>> >> >>> > >> something we could start with while we are working on the
>>>> dynamic
>>>> >> >>> pages.
>>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>> >> >>> > >> Thanks,
>>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>> >> >>> > >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>> >> >>> > >> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 10:40 AM Shaoxuan Wang <
>>>> [hidden email]>
>>>> >> >>> > >> wrote:
>>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>> >> >>> > >>> Hi Becket and Robert,
>>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>> I like this idea!  Let us roll this out with Flink
>>>> connectors at
>>>> >> >>> the
>>>> >> >>> > >>> first beginning. We can start with a static page, and
>>>> upgrade it
>>>> >> >>> when we
>>>> >> >>> > >>> find a better solution for dynamic one with rich functions.
>>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>> Regards,
>>>> >> >>> > >>> Shaoxuan
>>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 1:36 AM Robert Metzger <
>>>> [hidden email]
>>>> >> >>> >
>>>> >> >>> > >>> wrote:
>>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> Hey Becket,
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> This is a great idea!
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> For this to be successful, we need to make sure the page
>>>> is placed
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> prominently so that the people submitting something will
>>>> get
>>>> >> >>> attention for
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> their contributions.
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> I think a dynamic site would probably be better, if we
>>>> want
>>>> >> >>> features
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> such as up and downvoting or comments.
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> I would also like this to be hosted on Apache infra, and
>>>> endorsed
>>>> >> >>> by
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> the community.
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> Does anybody here know any existing software that we
>>>> could use?
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> The only think I was able to find is AUR:
>>>> >> >>> https://aur.archlinux.org/
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> (which is a community packages site for Arch Linux. The
>>>> source
>>>> >> >>> code of this
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> portal is open source, but the layout and structure is
>>>> not an
>>>> >> >>> ideal fit for
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> our requirements)
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> Best,
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> Robert
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 12:03 PM Becket Qin <
>>>> [hidden email]>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> wrote:
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Hi folks,
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>> I would like to start a discussion thread about creating
>>>> a Flink
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>> ecosystem website. The website aims to help contributors
>>>> who
>>>> >> >>> have developed
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>> projects around Flink share their work with the
>>>> community.
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Please see the following doc for more details.
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/12oCItoLbKrLGuwEUFcCfigezIR2hW3925j1hh3kGp4A/edit#
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Thanks,
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Best regards / Met vriendelijke groeten,
>>>>
>>>> Niels Basjes
>>>>
>>>

[Becket Qin]

I agree. We can start with english-only and see how it goes. The comments and descriptions can always be multi-lingual but that is up to the package owners.

On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 6:07 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]> wrote:

Thanks.

Do we actually want this page to be multi-language?

I propose to make the website english-only, but maybe consider allowing comments in different languages.

If we would make it multi-language, then we might have problems with people submitting packages in non-english languages.

 

On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 2:42 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:

Done. The writeup looks great!

On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 9:09 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]> wrote:

Nice, really good news on the INFRA front!

I think the hardware specs sound reasonable. And a periodic backup of the website's database to Infra's backup solution sounds reasonable too.

Can you accept and review my proposal for the website?

On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 3:47 PM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> I have a very capable and motivated frontend developer who would be
> willing to implement what I've mocked in my proposal.


That is awesome!

I created a Jira ticket[1] to Apache Infra and got the reply. It looks that
Apache infra team could provide a decent VM. The last piece is how to
ensure the data is persisted so we won't lose the project info / user
feedbacks when the VM is down. If Apache infra does not provide a
persistent storage for DB backup, we can always ask for multiple VMs and do
the fault tolerance by ourselves. It seems we can almost say the hardware
side is also ready.

Thanks,

Jiangjie (Becket) Qin

[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18010

On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 5:39 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Thank you for reaching out to Infra and the ember client.
> When I first saw the Ember repository, I thought it is the whole thing
> (frontend and backend), but while testing it, I realized it is "only" the
> frontend. I'm not sure if it makes sense to adjust the Ember observer
> client, or just write a simple UI from scratch.
> I have a very capable and motivated frontend developer who would be
> willing to implement what I've mocked in my proposal.
> In addition, I found somebody (Congxian Qiu) who seems to be eager to help
> with this project for the backend:
> https://github.com/rmetzger/flink-community-tools/issues/4
>
> For Infra: I made the same experience when asking for more GitHub
> permissions for "flinkbot": They didn't respond on their mailing list, only
> on Jira.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 2:45 PM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for writing up the specifications.
>>
>> Regarding the website source code, Austin found a website[1] whose
>> frontend code[2] is available publicly. It lacks some support (e.g login),
>> but it is still a good starting point. One thing is that I did not find a
>> License statement for that source code. I'll reach out to the author to see
>> if they have any concern over our usage.
>>
>> Apache Infra has not replied to my email regarding some details about the
>> VM. I'll open an infra Jira ticket tomorrow if there is still no response.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>
>> [1] https://emberobserver.com/
>> [2] https://github.com/emberobserver/client
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 1:35 AM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> @Bowen: I agree. Confluent Hub looks nicer, but it is on their company
>>> website. I guess the likelihood that they give out code from their company
>>> website is fairly low.
>>> @Nils: Beam's page is similar to our Ecosystem page, which we'll
>>> reactivate as part of this PR:
>>> https://github.com/apache/flink-web/pull/187
>>>
>>> Spark-packages.org did not respond to my request.
>>> I will propose a short specification in Becket's initial document.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 11:38 AM Niels Basjes <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> The Beam project has something in this area that is simply a page
>>>> within their documentation website:
>>>> https://beam.apache.org/documentation/sdks/java-thirdparty/
>>>>
>>>> Niels Basjes
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 11:39 PM Bowen Li <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Confluent hub for Kafka is another good example of this kind. I
>>>> personally like it over the spark site. May worth checking it out with
>>>> Kafka folks
>>>> >
>>>> > On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 6:06 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Absolutely! Thanks for the pointer. I'll submit a PR to update the
>>>> >> ecosystem page and the navigation.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Thanks,
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 8:47 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> > Okay. I will reach out to spark-packages.org and see if they are
>>>> willing
>>>> >> > to share.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Do you want to raise a PR to update the ecosystem page (maybe sync
>>>> with
>>>> >> > the "Software Projects" listed here:
>>>> >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/Powered+by+Flink)
>>>> and
>>>> >> > link it in the navigation?
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Best,
>>>> >> > Robert
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 10:13 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >> Hi Robert,
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> I think it at least worths checking if spark-packages.org owners
>>>> are
>>>> >> >> willing to share. Thanks for volunteering to write the requirement
>>>> >> >> descriptions! In any case, that will be very helpful.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Since a static page has almost no cost, and we will need it to
>>>> redirect
>>>> >> >> to the dynamic site anyways, how about we first do that while
>>>> working on
>>>> >> >> the dynamic website?
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Thanks,
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 4:59 AM Ufuk Celebi <[hidden email]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >>> I like Shaoxuan's idea to keep this a static site first. We
>>>> could then
>>>> >> >>> iterate on this and make it a dynamic thing. Of course, if we
>>>> have the
>>>> >> >>> resources in the community to quickly start with a dynamic site,
>>>> I'm
>>>> >> >>> not apposed.
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>> – Ufuk
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 2:31 PM Robert Metzger <
>>>> [hidden email]>
>>>> >> >>> wrote:
>>>> >> >>> >
>>>> >> >>> > Awesome! Thanks a lot for looking into this Becket! The VMs
>>>> hosted by
>>>> >> >>> Infra
>>>> >> >>> > look suitable.
>>>> >> >>> >
>>>> >> >>> > @Shaoxuan: There is actually already a static page. It used to
>>>> be
>>>> >> >>> linked,
>>>> >> >>> > but has been removed from the navigation bar for some reason.
>>>> This is
>>>> >> >>> the
>>>> >> >>> > page: https://flink.apache.org/ecosystem.html
>>>> >> >>> > We could update the page and add it back to the navigation bar
>>>> for the
>>>> >> >>> > coming weeks. What do you think?
>>>> >> >>> >
>>>> >> >>> > I would actually like to push for a dynamic page right away.
>>>> >> >>> >
>>>> >> >>> > I know it's kind of a bold move, but how do you feel about
>>>> sending the
>>>> >> >>> > owners of spark-packages.org a short note, if they are
>>>> interested in
>>>> >> >>> > sharing the source? We could maintain the code together in a
>>>> public
>>>> >> >>> repo.
>>>> >> >>> > If they are not interested in sharing, or we decide not to ask
>>>> in the
>>>> >> >>> first
>>>> >> >>> > place, I'm happy to write down a short description of the
>>>> requirements,
>>>> >> >>> > maybe some mockups. We could then see if we find somebody here
>>>> in the
>>>> >> >>> > community who's willing to implement it.
>>>> >> >>> > Given the number of people who are eager to contribute, I
>>>> believe we
>>>> >> >>> will
>>>> >> >>> > be able to find somebody pretty soon.
>>>> >> >>> >
>>>> >> >>> >
>>>> >> >>> > On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 3:49 AM Becket Qin <
>>>> [hidden email]>
>>>> >> >>> wrote:
>>>> >> >>> >
>>>> >> >>> > > Forgot to provide the link...
>>>> >> >>> > >
>>>> >> >>> > > [1] https://www.apache.org/dev/services.html#blogs (Apache
>>>> infra
>>>> >> >>> services)
>>>> >> >>> > > [2] https://www.apache.org/dev/freebsd-jails (FreeBSD Jail
>>>> provided
>>>> >> >>> by
>>>> >> >>> > > Apache Infra)
>>>> >> >>> > >
>>>> >> >>> > > On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 10:46 AM Becket Qin <
>>>> [hidden email]>
>>>> >> >>> wrote:
>>>> >> >>> > >
>>>> >> >>> > >> Hi Robert,
>>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>> >> >>> > >> Thanks for the feedback. These are good points. We should
>>>> absolutely
>>>> >> >>> > >> shoot for a dynamic website to support more interactions in
>>>> the
>>>> >> >>> community.
>>>> >> >>> > >> There might be a few things to solve:
>>>> >> >>> > >> 1. The website code itself. An open source solution would
>>>> be great.
>>>> >> >>> TBH,
>>>> >> >>> > >> I do not have much experience on building a website. It'll
>>>> be great
>>>> >> >>> if
>>>> >> >>> > >> someone could help comment on the solution here.
>>>> >> >>> > >> 2. The hardware to host the website. Apache Infra provides
>>>> a few
>>>> >> >>> > >> services[1] that Apache projects can leverage. I did not see
>>>> >> >>> database
>>>> >> >>> > >> service, but maybe we can run a simple MySQL db in FreeBSD
>>>> jail[2].
>>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>> >> >>> > >> @Bowen & vino, thanks for the positive feedback!
>>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>> >> >>> > >> @Shaoxuan Wang <[hidden email]>
>>>> >> >>> > >> Thanks for the suggestion. That sounds reasonable to me. We
>>>> >> >>> probably need
>>>> >> >>> > >> a page in the Flink official site anyways, even just
>>>> provide links
>>>> >> >>> it to
>>>> >> >>> > >> the ecosystem website. So listing the connectors in that
>>>> static
>>>> >> >>> page seems
>>>> >> >>> > >> something we could start with while we are working on the
>>>> dynamic
>>>> >> >>> pages.
>>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>> >> >>> > >> Thanks,
>>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>> >> >>> > >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>> >> >>> > >> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 10:40 AM Shaoxuan Wang <
>>>> [hidden email]>
>>>> >> >>> > >> wrote:
>>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>> >> >>> > >>> Hi Becket and Robert,
>>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>> I like this idea!  Let us roll this out with Flink
>>>> connectors at
>>>> >> >>> the
>>>> >> >>> > >>> first beginning. We can start with a static page, and
>>>> upgrade it
>>>> >> >>> when we
>>>> >> >>> > >>> find a better solution for dynamic one with rich functions.
>>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>> Regards,
>>>> >> >>> > >>> Shaoxuan
>>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 1:36 AM Robert Metzger <
>>>> [hidden email]
>>>> >> >>> >
>>>> >> >>> > >>> wrote:
>>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> Hey Becket,
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> This is a great idea!
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> For this to be successful, we need to make sure the page
>>>> is placed
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> prominently so that the people submitting something will
>>>> get
>>>> >> >>> attention for
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> their contributions.
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> I think a dynamic site would probably be better, if we
>>>> want
>>>> >> >>> features
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> such as up and downvoting or comments.
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> I would also like this to be hosted on Apache infra, and
>>>> endorsed
>>>> >> >>> by
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> the community.
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> Does anybody here know any existing software that we
>>>> could use?
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> The only think I was able to find is AUR:
>>>> >> >>> https://aur.archlinux.org/
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> (which is a community packages site for Arch Linux. The
>>>> source
>>>> >> >>> code of this
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> portal is open source, but the layout and structure is
>>>> not an
>>>> >> >>> ideal fit for
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> our requirements)
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> Best,
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> Robert
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 12:03 PM Becket Qin <
>>>> [hidden email]>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> wrote:
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Hi folks,
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>> I would like to start a discussion thread about creating
>>>> a Flink
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>> ecosystem website. The website aims to help contributors
>>>> who
>>>> >> >>> have developed
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>> projects around Flink share their work with the
>>>> community.
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Please see the following doc for more details.
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/12oCItoLbKrLGuwEUFcCfigezIR2hW3925j1hh3kGp4A/edit#
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Thanks,
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Best regards / Met vriendelijke groeten,
>>>>
>>>> Niels Basjes
>>>>
>>>

[rmetzger0]

Okay, great.

Congxian Qiu, Daryl and I have a kick-off call later today at 2pm CET, 9pm China time about the design of the ecosystem page (see: https://github.com/rmetzger/flink-community-tools/issues/4) 

Please let me know if others want to join as well, I can add them to the invite.

On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 4:10 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:

I agree. We can start with english-only and see how it goes. The comments and descriptions can always be multi-lingual but that is up to the package owners.

On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 6:07 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]> wrote:

Thanks.

Do we actually want this page to be multi-language?

I propose to make the website english-only, but maybe consider allowing comments in different languages.

If we would make it multi-language, then we might have problems with people submitting packages in non-english languages.

 

On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 2:42 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:

Done. The writeup looks great!

On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 9:09 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]> wrote:

Nice, really good news on the INFRA front!

I think the hardware specs sound reasonable. And a periodic backup of the website's database to Infra's backup solution sounds reasonable too.

Can you accept and review my proposal for the website?

On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 3:47 PM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> I have a very capable and motivated frontend developer who would be
> willing to implement what I've mocked in my proposal.


That is awesome!

I created a Jira ticket[1] to Apache Infra and got the reply. It looks that
Apache infra team could provide a decent VM. The last piece is how to
ensure the data is persisted so we won't lose the project info / user
feedbacks when the VM is down. If Apache infra does not provide a
persistent storage for DB backup, we can always ask for multiple VMs and do
the fault tolerance by ourselves. It seems we can almost say the hardware
side is also ready.

Thanks,

Jiangjie (Becket) Qin

[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18010

On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 5:39 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Thank you for reaching out to Infra and the ember client.
> When I first saw the Ember repository, I thought it is the whole thing
> (frontend and backend), but while testing it, I realized it is "only" the
> frontend. I'm not sure if it makes sense to adjust the Ember observer
> client, or just write a simple UI from scratch.
> I have a very capable and motivated frontend developer who would be
> willing to implement what I've mocked in my proposal.
> In addition, I found somebody (Congxian Qiu) who seems to be eager to help
> with this project for the backend:
> https://github.com/rmetzger/flink-community-tools/issues/4
>
> For Infra: I made the same experience when asking for more GitHub
> permissions for "flinkbot": They didn't respond on their mailing list, only
> on Jira.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 2:45 PM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for writing up the specifications.
>>
>> Regarding the website source code, Austin found a website[1] whose
>> frontend code[2] is available publicly. It lacks some support (e.g login),
>> but it is still a good starting point. One thing is that I did not find a
>> License statement for that source code. I'll reach out to the author to see
>> if they have any concern over our usage.
>>
>> Apache Infra has not replied to my email regarding some details about the
>> VM. I'll open an infra Jira ticket tomorrow if there is still no response.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>
>> [1] https://emberobserver.com/
>> [2] https://github.com/emberobserver/client
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 1:35 AM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> @Bowen: I agree. Confluent Hub looks nicer, but it is on their company
>>> website. I guess the likelihood that they give out code from their company
>>> website is fairly low.
>>> @Nils: Beam's page is similar to our Ecosystem page, which we'll
>>> reactivate as part of this PR:
>>> https://github.com/apache/flink-web/pull/187
>>>
>>> Spark-packages.org did not respond to my request.
>>> I will propose a short specification in Becket's initial document.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 11:38 AM Niels Basjes <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> The Beam project has something in this area that is simply a page
>>>> within their documentation website:
>>>> https://beam.apache.org/documentation/sdks/java-thirdparty/
>>>>
>>>> Niels Basjes
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 11:39 PM Bowen Li <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Confluent hub for Kafka is another good example of this kind. I
>>>> personally like it over the spark site. May worth checking it out with
>>>> Kafka folks
>>>> >
>>>> > On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 6:06 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Absolutely! Thanks for the pointer. I'll submit a PR to update the
>>>> >> ecosystem page and the navigation.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Thanks,
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 8:47 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> > Okay. I will reach out to spark-packages.org and see if they are
>>>> willing
>>>> >> > to share.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Do you want to raise a PR to update the ecosystem page (maybe sync
>>>> with
>>>> >> > the "Software Projects" listed here:
>>>> >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/Powered+by+Flink)
>>>> and
>>>> >> > link it in the navigation?
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Best,
>>>> >> > Robert
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 10:13 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >> Hi Robert,
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> I think it at least worths checking if spark-packages.org owners
>>>> are
>>>> >> >> willing to share. Thanks for volunteering to write the requirement
>>>> >> >> descriptions! In any case, that will be very helpful.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Since a static page has almost no cost, and we will need it to
>>>> redirect
>>>> >> >> to the dynamic site anyways, how about we first do that while
>>>> working on
>>>> >> >> the dynamic website?
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Thanks,
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 4:59 AM Ufuk Celebi <[hidden email]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >>> I like Shaoxuan's idea to keep this a static site first. We
>>>> could then
>>>> >> >>> iterate on this and make it a dynamic thing. Of course, if we
>>>> have the
>>>> >> >>> resources in the community to quickly start with a dynamic site,
>>>> I'm
>>>> >> >>> not apposed.
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>> – Ufuk
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 2:31 PM Robert Metzger <
>>>> [hidden email]>
>>>> >> >>> wrote:
>>>> >> >>> >
>>>> >> >>> > Awesome! Thanks a lot for looking into this Becket! The VMs
>>>> hosted by
>>>> >> >>> Infra
>>>> >> >>> > look suitable.
>>>> >> >>> >
>>>> >> >>> > @Shaoxuan: There is actually already a static page. It used to
>>>> be
>>>> >> >>> linked,
>>>> >> >>> > but has been removed from the navigation bar for some reason.
>>>> This is
>>>> >> >>> the
>>>> >> >>> > page: https://flink.apache.org/ecosystem.html
>>>> >> >>> > We could update the page and add it back to the navigation bar
>>>> for the
>>>> >> >>> > coming weeks. What do you think?
>>>> >> >>> >
>>>> >> >>> > I would actually like to push for a dynamic page right away.
>>>> >> >>> >
>>>> >> >>> > I know it's kind of a bold move, but how do you feel about
>>>> sending the
>>>> >> >>> > owners of spark-packages.org a short note, if they are
>>>> interested in
>>>> >> >>> > sharing the source? We could maintain the code together in a
>>>> public
>>>> >> >>> repo.
>>>> >> >>> > If they are not interested in sharing, or we decide not to ask
>>>> in the
>>>> >> >>> first
>>>> >> >>> > place, I'm happy to write down a short description of the
>>>> requirements,
>>>> >> >>> > maybe some mockups. We could then see if we find somebody here
>>>> in the
>>>> >> >>> > community who's willing to implement it.
>>>> >> >>> > Given the number of people who are eager to contribute, I
>>>> believe we
>>>> >> >>> will
>>>> >> >>> > be able to find somebody pretty soon.
>>>> >> >>> >
>>>> >> >>> >
>>>> >> >>> > On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 3:49 AM Becket Qin <
>>>> [hidden email]>
>>>> >> >>> wrote:
>>>> >> >>> >
>>>> >> >>> > > Forgot to provide the link...
>>>> >> >>> > >
>>>> >> >>> > > [1] https://www.apache.org/dev/services.html#blogs (Apache
>>>> infra
>>>> >> >>> services)
>>>> >> >>> > > [2] https://www.apache.org/dev/freebsd-jails (FreeBSD Jail
>>>> provided
>>>> >> >>> by
>>>> >> >>> > > Apache Infra)
>>>> >> >>> > >
>>>> >> >>> > > On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 10:46 AM Becket Qin <
>>>> [hidden email]>
>>>> >> >>> wrote:
>>>> >> >>> > >
>>>> >> >>> > >> Hi Robert,
>>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>> >> >>> > >> Thanks for the feedback. These are good points. We should
>>>> absolutely
>>>> >> >>> > >> shoot for a dynamic website to support more interactions in
>>>> the
>>>> >> >>> community.
>>>> >> >>> > >> There might be a few things to solve:
>>>> >> >>> > >> 1. The website code itself. An open source solution would
>>>> be great.
>>>> >> >>> TBH,
>>>> >> >>> > >> I do not have much experience on building a website. It'll
>>>> be great
>>>> >> >>> if
>>>> >> >>> > >> someone could help comment on the solution here.
>>>> >> >>> > >> 2. The hardware to host the website. Apache Infra provides
>>>> a few
>>>> >> >>> > >> services[1] that Apache projects can leverage. I did not see
>>>> >> >>> database
>>>> >> >>> > >> service, but maybe we can run a simple MySQL db in FreeBSD
>>>> jail[2].
>>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>> >> >>> > >> @Bowen & vino, thanks for the positive feedback!
>>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>> >> >>> > >> @Shaoxuan Wang <[hidden email]>
>>>> >> >>> > >> Thanks for the suggestion. That sounds reasonable to me. We
>>>> >> >>> probably need
>>>> >> >>> > >> a page in the Flink official site anyways, even just
>>>> provide links
>>>> >> >>> it to
>>>> >> >>> > >> the ecosystem website. So listing the connectors in that
>>>> static
>>>> >> >>> page seems
>>>> >> >>> > >> something we could start with while we are working on the
>>>> dynamic
>>>> >> >>> pages.
>>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>> >> >>> > >> Thanks,
>>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>> >> >>> > >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>> >> >>> > >> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 10:40 AM Shaoxuan Wang <
>>>> [hidden email]>
>>>> >> >>> > >> wrote:
>>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>> >> >>> > >>> Hi Becket and Robert,
>>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>> I like this idea!  Let us roll this out with Flink
>>>> connectors at
>>>> >> >>> the
>>>> >> >>> > >>> first beginning. We can start with a static page, and
>>>> upgrade it
>>>> >> >>> when we
>>>> >> >>> > >>> find a better solution for dynamic one with rich functions.
>>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>> Regards,
>>>> >> >>> > >>> Shaoxuan
>>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 1:36 AM Robert Metzger <
>>>> [hidden email]
>>>> >> >>> >
>>>> >> >>> > >>> wrote:
>>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> Hey Becket,
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> This is a great idea!
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> For this to be successful, we need to make sure the page
>>>> is placed
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> prominently so that the people submitting something will
>>>> get
>>>> >> >>> attention for
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> their contributions.
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> I think a dynamic site would probably be better, if we
>>>> want
>>>> >> >>> features
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> such as up and downvoting or comments.
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> I would also like this to be hosted on Apache infra, and
>>>> endorsed
>>>> >> >>> by
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> the community.
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> Does anybody here know any existing software that we
>>>> could use?
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> The only think I was able to find is AUR:
>>>> >> >>> https://aur.archlinux.org/
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> (which is a community packages site for Arch Linux. The
>>>> source
>>>> >> >>> code of this
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> portal is open source, but the layout and structure is
>>>> not an
>>>> >> >>> ideal fit for
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> our requirements)
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> Best,
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> Robert
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 12:03 PM Becket Qin <
>>>> [hidden email]>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> wrote:
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Hi folks,
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>> I would like to start a discussion thread about creating
>>>> a Flink
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>> ecosystem website. The website aims to help contributors
>>>> who
>>>> >> >>> have developed
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>> projects around Flink share their work with the
>>>> community.
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Please see the following doc for more details.
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/12oCItoLbKrLGuwEUFcCfigezIR2hW3925j1hh3kGp4A/edit#
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Thanks,
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Best regards / Met vriendelijke groeten,
>>>>
>>>> Niels Basjes
>>>>
>>>

[rmetzger0]

Quick summary of our call:
Daryl will soon start with a front end, build against a very simple mock-backend.

Congxian will start implementing the Spring-based backend early April.

As soon as the first prototype of the UI is ready, we'll share it here for feedback.

On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 10:08 AM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]> wrote:

Okay, great.

Congxian Qiu, Daryl and I have a kick-off call later today at 2pm CET, 9pm China time about the design of the ecosystem page (see: https://github.com/rmetzger/flink-community-tools/issues/4) 

Please let me know if others want to join as well, I can add them to the invite.

On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 4:10 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:

I agree. We can start with english-only and see how it goes. The comments and descriptions can always be multi-lingual but that is up to the package owners.

On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 6:07 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]> wrote:

Thanks.

Do we actually want this page to be multi-language?

I propose to make the website english-only, but maybe consider allowing comments in different languages.

If we would make it multi-language, then we might have problems with people submitting packages in non-english languages.

 

On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 2:42 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:

Done. The writeup looks great!

On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 9:09 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]> wrote:

Nice, really good news on the INFRA front!

I think the hardware specs sound reasonable. And a periodic backup of the website's database to Infra's backup solution sounds reasonable too.

Can you accept and review my proposal for the website?

On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 3:47 PM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> I have a very capable and motivated frontend developer who would be
> willing to implement what I've mocked in my proposal.


That is awesome!

I created a Jira ticket[1] to Apache Infra and got the reply. It looks that
Apache infra team could provide a decent VM. The last piece is how to
ensure the data is persisted so we won't lose the project info / user
feedbacks when the VM is down. If Apache infra does not provide a
persistent storage for DB backup, we can always ask for multiple VMs and do
the fault tolerance by ourselves. It seems we can almost say the hardware
side is also ready.

Thanks,

Jiangjie (Becket) Qin

[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18010

On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 5:39 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Thank you for reaching out to Infra and the ember client.
> When I first saw the Ember repository, I thought it is the whole thing
> (frontend and backend), but while testing it, I realized it is "only" the
> frontend. I'm not sure if it makes sense to adjust the Ember observer
> client, or just write a simple UI from scratch.
> I have a very capable and motivated frontend developer who would be
> willing to implement what I've mocked in my proposal.
> In addition, I found somebody (Congxian Qiu) who seems to be eager to help
> with this project for the backend:
> https://github.com/rmetzger/flink-community-tools/issues/4
>
> For Infra: I made the same experience when asking for more GitHub
> permissions for "flinkbot": They didn't respond on their mailing list, only
> on Jira.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 2:45 PM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for writing up the specifications.
>>
>> Regarding the website source code, Austin found a website[1] whose
>> frontend code[2] is available publicly. It lacks some support (e.g login),
>> but it is still a good starting point. One thing is that I did not find a
>> License statement for that source code. I'll reach out to the author to see
>> if they have any concern over our usage.
>>
>> Apache Infra has not replied to my email regarding some details about the
>> VM. I'll open an infra Jira ticket tomorrow if there is still no response.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>
>> [1] https://emberobserver.com/
>> [2] https://github.com/emberobserver/client
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 1:35 AM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> @Bowen: I agree. Confluent Hub looks nicer, but it is on their company
>>> website. I guess the likelihood that they give out code from their company
>>> website is fairly low.
>>> @Nils: Beam's page is similar to our Ecosystem page, which we'll
>>> reactivate as part of this PR:
>>> https://github.com/apache/flink-web/pull/187
>>>
>>> Spark-packages.org did not respond to my request.
>>> I will propose a short specification in Becket's initial document.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 11:38 AM Niels Basjes <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> The Beam project has something in this area that is simply a page
>>>> within their documentation website:
>>>> https://beam.apache.org/documentation/sdks/java-thirdparty/
>>>>
>>>> Niels Basjes
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 11:39 PM Bowen Li <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Confluent hub for Kafka is another good example of this kind. I
>>>> personally like it over the spark site. May worth checking it out with
>>>> Kafka folks
>>>> >
>>>> > On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 6:06 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Absolutely! Thanks for the pointer. I'll submit a PR to update the
>>>> >> ecosystem page and the navigation.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Thanks,
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 8:47 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> > Okay. I will reach out to spark-packages.org and see if they are
>>>> willing
>>>> >> > to share.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Do you want to raise a PR to update the ecosystem page (maybe sync
>>>> with
>>>> >> > the "Software Projects" listed here:
>>>> >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/Powered+by+Flink)
>>>> and
>>>> >> > link it in the navigation?
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Best,
>>>> >> > Robert
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 10:13 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >> Hi Robert,
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> I think it at least worths checking if spark-packages.org owners
>>>> are
>>>> >> >> willing to share. Thanks for volunteering to write the requirement
>>>> >> >> descriptions! In any case, that will be very helpful.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Since a static page has almost no cost, and we will need it to
>>>> redirect
>>>> >> >> to the dynamic site anyways, how about we first do that while
>>>> working on
>>>> >> >> the dynamic website?
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Thanks,
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 4:59 AM Ufuk Celebi <[hidden email]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >>> I like Shaoxuan's idea to keep this a static site first. We
>>>> could then
>>>> >> >>> iterate on this and make it a dynamic thing. Of course, if we
>>>> have the
>>>> >> >>> resources in the community to quickly start with a dynamic site,
>>>> I'm
>>>> >> >>> not apposed.
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>> – Ufuk
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 2:31 PM Robert Metzger <
>>>> [hidden email]>
>>>> >> >>> wrote:
>>>> >> >>> >
>>>> >> >>> > Awesome! Thanks a lot for looking into this Becket! The VMs
>>>> hosted by
>>>> >> >>> Infra
>>>> >> >>> > look suitable.
>>>> >> >>> >
>>>> >> >>> > @Shaoxuan: There is actually already a static page. It used to
>>>> be
>>>> >> >>> linked,
>>>> >> >>> > but has been removed from the navigation bar for some reason.
>>>> This is
>>>> >> >>> the
>>>> >> >>> > page: https://flink.apache.org/ecosystem.html
>>>> >> >>> > We could update the page and add it back to the navigation bar
>>>> for the
>>>> >> >>> > coming weeks. What do you think?
>>>> >> >>> >
>>>> >> >>> > I would actually like to push for a dynamic page right away.
>>>> >> >>> >
>>>> >> >>> > I know it's kind of a bold move, but how do you feel about
>>>> sending the
>>>> >> >>> > owners of spark-packages.org a short note, if they are
>>>> interested in
>>>> >> >>> > sharing the source? We could maintain the code together in a
>>>> public
>>>> >> >>> repo.
>>>> >> >>> > If they are not interested in sharing, or we decide not to ask
>>>> in the
>>>> >> >>> first
>>>> >> >>> > place, I'm happy to write down a short description of the
>>>> requirements,
>>>> >> >>> > maybe some mockups. We could then see if we find somebody here
>>>> in the
>>>> >> >>> > community who's willing to implement it.
>>>> >> >>> > Given the number of people who are eager to contribute, I
>>>> believe we
>>>> >> >>> will
>>>> >> >>> > be able to find somebody pretty soon.
>>>> >> >>> >
>>>> >> >>> >
>>>> >> >>> > On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 3:49 AM Becket Qin <
>>>> [hidden email]>
>>>> >> >>> wrote:
>>>> >> >>> >
>>>> >> >>> > > Forgot to provide the link...
>>>> >> >>> > >
>>>> >> >>> > > [1] https://www.apache.org/dev/services.html#blogs (Apache
>>>> infra
>>>> >> >>> services)
>>>> >> >>> > > [2] https://www.apache.org/dev/freebsd-jails (FreeBSD Jail
>>>> provided
>>>> >> >>> by
>>>> >> >>> > > Apache Infra)
>>>> >> >>> > >
>>>> >> >>> > > On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 10:46 AM Becket Qin <
>>>> [hidden email]>
>>>> >> >>> wrote:
>>>> >> >>> > >
>>>> >> >>> > >> Hi Robert,
>>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>> >> >>> > >> Thanks for the feedback. These are good points. We should
>>>> absolutely
>>>> >> >>> > >> shoot for a dynamic website to support more interactions in
>>>> the
>>>> >> >>> community.
>>>> >> >>> > >> There might be a few things to solve:
>>>> >> >>> > >> 1. The website code itself. An open source solution would
>>>> be great.
>>>> >> >>> TBH,
>>>> >> >>> > >> I do not have much experience on building a website. It'll
>>>> be great
>>>> >> >>> if
>>>> >> >>> > >> someone could help comment on the solution here.
>>>> >> >>> > >> 2. The hardware to host the website. Apache Infra provides
>>>> a few
>>>> >> >>> > >> services[1] that Apache projects can leverage. I did not see
>>>> >> >>> database
>>>> >> >>> > >> service, but maybe we can run a simple MySQL db in FreeBSD
>>>> jail[2].
>>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>> >> >>> > >> @Bowen & vino, thanks for the positive feedback!
>>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>> >> >>> > >> @Shaoxuan Wang <[hidden email]>
>>>> >> >>> > >> Thanks for the suggestion. That sounds reasonable to me. We
>>>> >> >>> probably need
>>>> >> >>> > >> a page in the Flink official site anyways, even just
>>>> provide links
>>>> >> >>> it to
>>>> >> >>> > >> the ecosystem website. So listing the connectors in that
>>>> static
>>>> >> >>> page seems
>>>> >> >>> > >> something we could start with while we are working on the
>>>> dynamic
>>>> >> >>> pages.
>>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>> >> >>> > >> Thanks,
>>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>> >> >>> > >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>> >> >>> > >> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 10:40 AM Shaoxuan Wang <
>>>> [hidden email]>
>>>> >> >>> > >> wrote:
>>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>> >> >>> > >>> Hi Becket and Robert,
>>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>> I like this idea!  Let us roll this out with Flink
>>>> connectors at
>>>> >> >>> the
>>>> >> >>> > >>> first beginning. We can start with a static page, and
>>>> upgrade it
>>>> >> >>> when we
>>>> >> >>> > >>> find a better solution for dynamic one with rich functions.
>>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>> Regards,
>>>> >> >>> > >>> Shaoxuan
>>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 1:36 AM Robert Metzger <
>>>> [hidden email]
>>>> >> >>> >
>>>> >> >>> > >>> wrote:
>>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> Hey Becket,
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> This is a great idea!
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> For this to be successful, we need to make sure the page
>>>> is placed
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> prominently so that the people submitting something will
>>>> get
>>>> >> >>> attention for
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> their contributions.
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> I think a dynamic site would probably be better, if we
>>>> want
>>>> >> >>> features
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> such as up and downvoting or comments.
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> I would also like this to be hosted on Apache infra, and
>>>> endorsed
>>>> >> >>> by
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> the community.
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> Does anybody here know any existing software that we
>>>> could use?
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> The only think I was able to find is AUR:
>>>> >> >>> https://aur.archlinux.org/
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> (which is a community packages site for Arch Linux. The
>>>> source
>>>> >> >>> code of this
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> portal is open source, but the layout and structure is
>>>> not an
>>>> >> >>> ideal fit for
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> our requirements)
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> Best,
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> Robert
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 12:03 PM Becket Qin <
>>>> [hidden email]>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>> wrote:
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Hi folks,
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>> I would like to start a discussion thread about creating
>>>> a Flink
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>> ecosystem website. The website aims to help contributors
>>>> who
>>>> >> >>> have developed
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>> projects around Flink share their work with the
>>>> community.
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Please see the following doc for more details.
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/12oCItoLbKrLGuwEUFcCfigezIR2hW3925j1hh3kGp4A/edit#
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Thanks,
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Best regards / Met vriendelijke groeten,
>>>>
>>>> Niels Basjes
>>>>
>>>

[Becket Qin]

Thanks for the update Robert! Looking forward to the prototype! 

On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 10:07 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]> wrote:

Quick summary of our call:
Daryl will soon start with a front end, build against a very simple
mock-backend.
Congxian will start implementing the Spring-based backend early April.

As soon as the first prototype of the UI is ready, we'll share it here for
feedback.

On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 10:08 AM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Okay, great.
>
> Congxian Qiu, Daryl and I have a kick-off call later today at 2pm CET, 9pm
> China time about the design of the ecosystem page (see:
> https://github.com/rmetzger/flink-community-tools/issues/4)
> Please let me know if others want to join as well, I can add them to the
> invite.
>
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 4:10 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> I agree. We can start with english-only and see how it goes. The comments
>> and descriptions can always be multi-lingual but that is up to the package
>> owners.
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 6:07 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Do we actually want this page to be multi-language?
>>>
>>> I propose to make the website english-only, but maybe consider allowing
>>> comments in different languages.
>>> If we would make it multi-language, then we might have problems with
>>> people submitting packages in non-english languages.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 2:42 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Done. The writeup looks great!
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 9:09 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Nice, really good news on the INFRA front!
>>>>> I think the hardware specs sound reasonable. And a periodic backup of
>>>>> the website's database to Infra's backup solution sounds reasonable too.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you accept and review my proposal for the website?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 3:47 PM Becket Qin <[hidden email]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > I have a very capable and motivated frontend developer who would be
>>>>>> > willing to implement what I've mocked in my proposal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is awesome!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I created a Jira ticket[1] to Apache Infra and got the reply. It
>>>>>> looks that
>>>>>> Apache infra team could provide a decent VM. The last piece is how to
>>>>>> ensure the data is persisted so we won't lose the project info / user
>>>>>> feedbacks when the VM is down. If Apache infra does not provide a
>>>>>> persistent storage for DB backup, we can always ask for multiple VMs
>>>>>> and do
>>>>>> the fault tolerance by ourselves. It seems we can almost say the
>>>>>> hardware
>>>>>> side is also ready.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18010
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 5:39 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > Thank you for reaching out to Infra and the ember client.
>>>>>> > When I first saw the Ember repository, I thought it is the whole
>>>>>> thing
>>>>>> > (frontend and backend), but while testing it, I realized it is
>>>>>> "only" the
>>>>>> > frontend. I'm not sure if it makes sense to adjust the Ember
>>>>>> observer
>>>>>> > client, or just write a simple UI from scratch.
>>>>>> > I have a very capable and motivated frontend developer who would be
>>>>>> > willing to implement what I've mocked in my proposal.
>>>>>> > In addition, I found somebody (Congxian Qiu) who seems to be eager
>>>>>> to help
>>>>>> > with this project for the backend:
>>>>>> > https://github.com/rmetzger/flink-community-tools/issues/4
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > For Infra: I made the same experience when asking for more GitHub
>>>>>> > permissions for "flinkbot": They didn't respond on their mailing
>>>>>> list, only
>>>>>> > on Jira.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 2:45 PM Becket Qin <[hidden email]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> Thanks for writing up the specifications.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Regarding the website source code, Austin found a website[1] whose
>>>>>> >> frontend code[2] is available publicly. It lacks some support (e.g
>>>>>> login),
>>>>>> >> but it is still a good starting point. One thing is that I did not
>>>>>> find a
>>>>>> >> License statement for that source code. I'll reach out to the
>>>>>> author to see
>>>>>> >> if they have any concern over our usage.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Apache Infra has not replied to my email regarding some details
>>>>>> about the
>>>>>> >> VM. I'll open an infra Jira ticket tomorrow if there is still no
>>>>>> response.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Thanks,
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> [1] https://emberobserver.com/
>>>>>> >> [2] https://github.com/emberobserver/client
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 1:35 AM Robert Metzger <
>>>>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>> @Bowen: I agree. Confluent Hub looks nicer, but it is on their
>>>>>> company
>>>>>> >>> website. I guess the likelihood that they give out code from
>>>>>> their company
>>>>>> >>> website is fairly low.
>>>>>> >>> @Nils: Beam's page is similar to our Ecosystem page, which we'll
>>>>>> >>> reactivate as part of this PR:
>>>>>> >>> https://github.com/apache/flink-web/pull/187
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Spark-packages.org did not respond to my request.
>>>>>> >>> I will propose a short specification in Becket's initial document.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 11:38 AM Niels Basjes <[hidden email]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>> Hi,
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> The Beam project has something in this area that is simply a page
>>>>>> >>>> within their documentation website:
>>>>>> >>>> https://beam.apache.org/documentation/sdks/java-thirdparty/
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Niels Basjes
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 11:39 PM Bowen Li <[hidden email]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >
>>>>>> >>>> > Confluent hub for Kafka is another good example of this kind. I
>>>>>> >>>> personally like it over the spark site. May worth checking it
>>>>>> out with
>>>>>> >>>> Kafka folks
>>>>>> >>>> >
>>>>>> >>>> > On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 6:06 AM Becket Qin <
>>>>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> Absolutely! Thanks for the pointer. I'll submit a PR to
>>>>>> update the
>>>>>> >>>> >> ecosystem page and the navigation.
>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> Thanks,
>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 8:47 PM Robert Metzger <
>>>>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> > Okay. I will reach out to spark-packages.org and see if
>>>>>> they are
>>>>>> >>>> willing
>>>>>> >>>> >> > to share.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> > Do you want to raise a PR to update the ecosystem page
>>>>>> (maybe sync
>>>>>> >>>> with
>>>>>> >>>> >> > the "Software Projects" listed here:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/Powered+by+Flink)
>>>>>> >>>> and
>>>>>> >>>> >> > link it in the navigation?
>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> > Best,
>>>>>> >>>> >> > Robert
>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> > On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 10:13 AM Becket Qin <
>>>>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> Hi Robert,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> I think it at least worths checking if spark-packages.org
>>>>>> owners
>>>>>> >>>> are
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> willing to share. Thanks for volunteering to write the
>>>>>> requirement
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> descriptions! In any case, that will be very helpful.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> Since a static page has almost no cost, and we will need
>>>>>> it to
>>>>>> >>>> redirect
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> to the dynamic site anyways, how about we first do that
>>>>>> while
>>>>>> >>>> working on
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> the dynamic website?
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> Thanks,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 4:59 AM Ufuk Celebi <[hidden email]
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> I like Shaoxuan's idea to keep this a static site first.
>>>>>> We
>>>>>> >>>> could then
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> iterate on this and make it a dynamic thing. Of course,
>>>>>> if we
>>>>>> >>>> have the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> resources in the community to quickly start with a
>>>>>> dynamic site,
>>>>>> >>>> I'm
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> not apposed.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> – Ufuk
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 2:31 PM Robert Metzger <
>>>>>> >>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > Awesome! Thanks a lot for looking into this Becket! The
>>>>>> VMs
>>>>>> >>>> hosted by
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> Infra
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > look suitable.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > @Shaoxuan: There is actually already a static page. It
>>>>>> used to
>>>>>> >>>> be
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> linked,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > but has been removed from the navigation bar for some
>>>>>> reason.
>>>>>> >>>> This is
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > page: https://flink.apache.org/ecosystem.html
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > We could update the page and add it back to the
>>>>>> navigation bar
>>>>>> >>>> for the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > coming weeks. What do you think?
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > I would actually like to push for a dynamic page right
>>>>>> away.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > I know it's kind of a bold move, but how do you feel
>>>>>> about
>>>>>> >>>> sending the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > owners of spark-packages.org a short note, if they are
>>>>>> >>>> interested in
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > sharing the source? We could maintain the code together
>>>>>> in a
>>>>>> >>>> public
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> repo.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > If they are not interested in sharing, or we decide not
>>>>>> to ask
>>>>>> >>>> in the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> first
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > place, I'm happy to write down a short description of
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> >>>> requirements,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > maybe some mockups. We could then see if we find
>>>>>> somebody here
>>>>>> >>>> in the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > community who's willing to implement it.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > Given the number of people who are eager to contribute,
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> >>>> believe we
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> will
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > be able to find somebody pretty soon.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 3:49 AM Becket Qin <
>>>>>> >>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > > Forgot to provide the link...
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > > [1] https://www.apache.org/dev/services.html#blogs
>>>>>> (Apache
>>>>>> >>>> infra
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> services)
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > > [2] https://www.apache.org/dev/freebsd-jails
>>>>>> (FreeBSD Jail
>>>>>> >>>> provided
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> by
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > > Apache Infra)
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > > On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 10:46 AM Becket Qin <
>>>>>> >>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> Hi Robert,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> Thanks for the feedback. These are good points. We
>>>>>> should
>>>>>> >>>> absolutely
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> shoot for a dynamic website to support more
>>>>>> interactions in
>>>>>> >>>> the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> community.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> There might be a few things to solve:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> 1. The website code itself. An open source solution
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> >>>> be great.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> TBH,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> I do not have much experience on building a website.
>>>>>> It'll
>>>>>> >>>> be great
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> if
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> someone could help comment on the solution here.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> 2. The hardware to host the website. Apache Infra
>>>>>> provides
>>>>>> >>>> a few
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> services[1] that Apache projects can leverage. I did
>>>>>> not see
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> database
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> service, but maybe we can run a simple MySQL db in
>>>>>> FreeBSD
>>>>>> >>>> jail[2].
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> @Bowen & vino, thanks for the positive feedback!
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> @Shaoxuan Wang <[hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> Thanks for the suggestion. That sounds reasonable to
>>>>>> me. We
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> probably need
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> a page in the Flink official site anyways, even just
>>>>>> >>>> provide links
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> it to
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> the ecosystem website. So listing the connectors in
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> >>>> static
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> page seems
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> something we could start with while we are working
>>>>>> on the
>>>>>> >>>> dynamic
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> pages.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> Thanks,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 10:40 AM Shaoxuan Wang <
>>>>>> >>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> Hi Becket and Robert,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> I like this idea!  Let us roll this out with Flink
>>>>>> >>>> connectors at
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> first beginning. We can start with a static page,
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> >>>> upgrade it
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> when we
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> find a better solution for dynamic one with rich
>>>>>> functions.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> Regards,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> Shaoxuan
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 1:36 AM Robert Metzger <
>>>>>> >>>> [hidden email]
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> Hey Becket,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> This is a great idea!
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> For this to be successful, we need to make sure
>>>>>> the page
>>>>>> >>>> is placed
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> prominently so that the people submitting
>>>>>> something will
>>>>>> >>>> get
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> attention for
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> their contributions.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> I think a dynamic site would probably be better,
>>>>>> if we
>>>>>> >>>> want
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> features
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> such as up and downvoting or comments.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> I would also like this to be hosted on Apache
>>>>>> infra, and
>>>>>> >>>> endorsed
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> by
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> the community.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> Does anybody here know any existing software that
>>>>>> we
>>>>>> >>>> could use?
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> The only think I was able to find is AUR:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> https://aur.archlinux.org/
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> (which is a community packages site for Arch
>>>>>> Linux. The
>>>>>> >>>> source
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> code of this
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> portal is open source, but the layout and
>>>>>> structure is
>>>>>> >>>> not an
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> ideal fit for
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> our requirements)
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> Best,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> Robert
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 12:03 PM Becket Qin <
>>>>>> >>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> I would like to start a discussion thread about
>>>>>> creating
>>>>>> >>>> a Flink
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> ecosystem website. The website aims to help
>>>>>> contributors
>>>>>> >>>> who
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> have developed
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> projects around Flink share their work with the
>>>>>> >>>> community.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Please see the following doc for more details.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/12oCItoLbKrLGuwEUFcCfigezIR2hW3925j1hh3kGp4A/edit#
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> --
>>>>>> >>>> Best regards / Met vriendelijke groeten,
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Niels Basjes
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>

[Oytun Tez]

Thank you, all! If there are operational tasks about the ecosystem page(s), let me know (organizing the content etc, whatever).

On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 2:14 PM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:

Thanks for the update Robert! Looking forward to the prototype! 

On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 10:07 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]> wrote:

Quick summary of our call:
Daryl will soon start with a front end, build against a very simple
mock-backend.
Congxian will start implementing the Spring-based backend early April.

As soon as the first prototype of the UI is ready, we'll share it here for
feedback.

On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 10:08 AM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Okay, great.
>
> Congxian Qiu, Daryl and I have a kick-off call later today at 2pm CET, 9pm
> China time about the design of the ecosystem page (see:
> https://github.com/rmetzger/flink-community-tools/issues/4)
> Please let me know if others want to join as well, I can add them to the
> invite.
>
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 4:10 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> I agree. We can start with english-only and see how it goes. The comments
>> and descriptions can always be multi-lingual but that is up to the package
>> owners.
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 6:07 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Do we actually want this page to be multi-language?
>>>
>>> I propose to make the website english-only, but maybe consider allowing
>>> comments in different languages.
>>> If we would make it multi-language, then we might have problems with
>>> people submitting packages in non-english languages.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 2:42 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Done. The writeup looks great!
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 9:09 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Nice, really good news on the INFRA front!
>>>>> I think the hardware specs sound reasonable. And a periodic backup of
>>>>> the website's database to Infra's backup solution sounds reasonable too.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you accept and review my proposal for the website?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 3:47 PM Becket Qin <[hidden email]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > I have a very capable and motivated frontend developer who would be
>>>>>> > willing to implement what I've mocked in my proposal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is awesome!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I created a Jira ticket[1] to Apache Infra and got the reply. It
>>>>>> looks that
>>>>>> Apache infra team could provide a decent VM. The last piece is how to
>>>>>> ensure the data is persisted so we won't lose the project info / user
>>>>>> feedbacks when the VM is down. If Apache infra does not provide a
>>>>>> persistent storage for DB backup, we can always ask for multiple VMs
>>>>>> and do
>>>>>> the fault tolerance by ourselves. It seems we can almost say the
>>>>>> hardware
>>>>>> side is also ready.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18010
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 5:39 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > Thank you for reaching out to Infra and the ember client.
>>>>>> > When I first saw the Ember repository, I thought it is the whole
>>>>>> thing
>>>>>> > (frontend and backend), but while testing it, I realized it is
>>>>>> "only" the
>>>>>> > frontend. I'm not sure if it makes sense to adjust the Ember
>>>>>> observer
>>>>>> > client, or just write a simple UI from scratch.
>>>>>> > I have a very capable and motivated frontend developer who would be
>>>>>> > willing to implement what I've mocked in my proposal.
>>>>>> > In addition, I found somebody (Congxian Qiu) who seems to be eager
>>>>>> to help
>>>>>> > with this project for the backend:
>>>>>> > https://github.com/rmetzger/flink-community-tools/issues/4
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > For Infra: I made the same experience when asking for more GitHub
>>>>>> > permissions for "flinkbot": They didn't respond on their mailing
>>>>>> list, only
>>>>>> > on Jira.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 2:45 PM Becket Qin <[hidden email]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> Thanks for writing up the specifications.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Regarding the website source code, Austin found a website[1] whose
>>>>>> >> frontend code[2] is available publicly. It lacks some support (e.g
>>>>>> login),
>>>>>> >> but it is still a good starting point. One thing is that I did not
>>>>>> find a
>>>>>> >> License statement for that source code. I'll reach out to the
>>>>>> author to see
>>>>>> >> if they have any concern over our usage.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Apache Infra has not replied to my email regarding some details
>>>>>> about the
>>>>>> >> VM. I'll open an infra Jira ticket tomorrow if there is still no
>>>>>> response.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Thanks,
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> [1] https://emberobserver.com/
>>>>>> >> [2] https://github.com/emberobserver/client
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 1:35 AM Robert Metzger <
>>>>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>> @Bowen: I agree. Confluent Hub looks nicer, but it is on their
>>>>>> company
>>>>>> >>> website. I guess the likelihood that they give out code from
>>>>>> their company
>>>>>> >>> website is fairly low.
>>>>>> >>> @Nils: Beam's page is similar to our Ecosystem page, which we'll
>>>>>> >>> reactivate as part of this PR:
>>>>>> >>> https://github.com/apache/flink-web/pull/187
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Spark-packages.org did not respond to my request.
>>>>>> >>> I will propose a short specification in Becket's initial document.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 11:38 AM Niels Basjes <[hidden email]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>> Hi,
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> The Beam project has something in this area that is simply a page
>>>>>> >>>> within their documentation website:
>>>>>> >>>> https://beam.apache.org/documentation/sdks/java-thirdparty/
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Niels Basjes
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 11:39 PM Bowen Li <[hidden email]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >
>>>>>> >>>> > Confluent hub for Kafka is another good example of this kind. I
>>>>>> >>>> personally like it over the spark site. May worth checking it
>>>>>> out with
>>>>>> >>>> Kafka folks
>>>>>> >>>> >
>>>>>> >>>> > On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 6:06 AM Becket Qin <
>>>>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> Absolutely! Thanks for the pointer. I'll submit a PR to
>>>>>> update the
>>>>>> >>>> >> ecosystem page and the navigation.
>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> Thanks,
>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 8:47 PM Robert Metzger <
>>>>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> > Okay. I will reach out to spark-packages.org and see if
>>>>>> they are
>>>>>> >>>> willing
>>>>>> >>>> >> > to share.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> > Do you want to raise a PR to update the ecosystem page
>>>>>> (maybe sync
>>>>>> >>>> with
>>>>>> >>>> >> > the "Software Projects" listed here:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/Powered+by+Flink)
>>>>>> >>>> and
>>>>>> >>>> >> > link it in the navigation?
>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> > Best,
>>>>>> >>>> >> > Robert
>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> > On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 10:13 AM Becket Qin <
>>>>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> Hi Robert,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> I think it at least worths checking if spark-packages.org
>>>>>> owners
>>>>>> >>>> are
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> willing to share. Thanks for volunteering to write the
>>>>>> requirement
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> descriptions! In any case, that will be very helpful.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> Since a static page has almost no cost, and we will need
>>>>>> it to
>>>>>> >>>> redirect
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> to the dynamic site anyways, how about we first do that
>>>>>> while
>>>>>> >>>> working on
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> the dynamic website?
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> Thanks,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 4:59 AM Ufuk Celebi <[hidden email]
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> I like Shaoxuan's idea to keep this a static site first.
>>>>>> We
>>>>>> >>>> could then
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> iterate on this and make it a dynamic thing. Of course,
>>>>>> if we
>>>>>> >>>> have the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> resources in the community to quickly start with a
>>>>>> dynamic site,
>>>>>> >>>> I'm
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> not apposed.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> – Ufuk
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 2:31 PM Robert Metzger <
>>>>>> >>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > Awesome! Thanks a lot for looking into this Becket! The
>>>>>> VMs
>>>>>> >>>> hosted by
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> Infra
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > look suitable.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > @Shaoxuan: There is actually already a static page. It
>>>>>> used to
>>>>>> >>>> be
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> linked,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > but has been removed from the navigation bar for some
>>>>>> reason.
>>>>>> >>>> This is
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > page: https://flink.apache.org/ecosystem.html
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > We could update the page and add it back to the
>>>>>> navigation bar
>>>>>> >>>> for the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > coming weeks. What do you think?
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > I would actually like to push for a dynamic page right
>>>>>> away.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > I know it's kind of a bold move, but how do you feel
>>>>>> about
>>>>>> >>>> sending the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > owners of spark-packages.org a short note, if they are
>>>>>> >>>> interested in
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > sharing the source? We could maintain the code together
>>>>>> in a
>>>>>> >>>> public
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> repo.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > If they are not interested in sharing, or we decide not
>>>>>> to ask
>>>>>> >>>> in the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> first
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > place, I'm happy to write down a short description of
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> >>>> requirements,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > maybe some mockups. We could then see if we find
>>>>>> somebody here
>>>>>> >>>> in the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > community who's willing to implement it.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > Given the number of people who are eager to contribute,
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> >>>> believe we
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> will
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > be able to find somebody pretty soon.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 3:49 AM Becket Qin <
>>>>>> >>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > > Forgot to provide the link...
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > > [1] https://www.apache.org/dev/services.html#blogs
>>>>>> (Apache
>>>>>> >>>> infra
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> services)
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > > [2] https://www.apache.org/dev/freebsd-jails
>>>>>> (FreeBSD Jail
>>>>>> >>>> provided
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> by
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > > Apache Infra)
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > > On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 10:46 AM Becket Qin <
>>>>>> >>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> Hi Robert,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> Thanks for the feedback. These are good points. We
>>>>>> should
>>>>>> >>>> absolutely
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> shoot for a dynamic website to support more
>>>>>> interactions in
>>>>>> >>>> the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> community.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> There might be a few things to solve:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> 1. The website code itself. An open source solution
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> >>>> be great.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> TBH,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> I do not have much experience on building a website.
>>>>>> It'll
>>>>>> >>>> be great
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> if
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> someone could help comment on the solution here.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> 2. The hardware to host the website. Apache Infra
>>>>>> provides
>>>>>> >>>> a few
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> services[1] that Apache projects can leverage. I did
>>>>>> not see
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> database
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> service, but maybe we can run a simple MySQL db in
>>>>>> FreeBSD
>>>>>> >>>> jail[2].
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> @Bowen & vino, thanks for the positive feedback!
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> @Shaoxuan Wang <[hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> Thanks for the suggestion. That sounds reasonable to
>>>>>> me. We
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> probably need
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> a page in the Flink official site anyways, even just
>>>>>> >>>> provide links
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> it to
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> the ecosystem website. So listing the connectors in
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> >>>> static
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> page seems
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> something we could start with while we are working
>>>>>> on the
>>>>>> >>>> dynamic
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> pages.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> Thanks,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 10:40 AM Shaoxuan Wang <
>>>>>> >>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> Hi Becket and Robert,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> I like this idea!  Let us roll this out with Flink
>>>>>> >>>> connectors at
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> first beginning. We can start with a static page,
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> >>>> upgrade it
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> when we
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> find a better solution for dynamic one with rich
>>>>>> functions.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> Regards,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> Shaoxuan
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 1:36 AM Robert Metzger <
>>>>>> >>>> [hidden email]
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> Hey Becket,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> This is a great idea!
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> For this to be successful, we need to make sure
>>>>>> the page
>>>>>> >>>> is placed
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> prominently so that the people submitting
>>>>>> something will
>>>>>> >>>> get
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> attention for
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> their contributions.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> I think a dynamic site would probably be better,
>>>>>> if we
>>>>>> >>>> want
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> features
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> such as up and downvoting or comments.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> I would also like this to be hosted on Apache
>>>>>> infra, and
>>>>>> >>>> endorsed
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> by
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> the community.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> Does anybody here know any existing software that
>>>>>> we
>>>>>> >>>> could use?
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> The only think I was able to find is AUR:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> https://aur.archlinux.org/
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> (which is a community packages site for Arch
>>>>>> Linux. The
>>>>>> >>>> source
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> code of this
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> portal is open source, but the layout and
>>>>>> structure is
>>>>>> >>>> not an
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> ideal fit for
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> our requirements)
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> Best,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> Robert
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 12:03 PM Becket Qin <
>>>>>> >>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> I would like to start a discussion thread about
>>>>>> creating
>>>>>> >>>> a Flink
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> ecosystem website. The website aims to help
>>>>>> contributors
>>>>>> >>>> who
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> have developed
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> projects around Flink share their work with the
>>>>>> >>>> community.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Please see the following doc for more details.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/12oCItoLbKrLGuwEUFcCfigezIR2hW3925j1hh3kGp4A/edit#
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> --
>>>>>> >>>> Best regards / Met vriendelijke groeten,
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Niels Basjes
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>

[Daryl Roberts]

Hello all,

We have deployed the first version of the UI prototype to the following URL: https://flink-ecosystem-demo.flink-resources.org/#/packages

It has some very basic functionality:

* list packages

* list packages by 'category'

* show a single package

* search that will take you to a search page

The data is all fake, and generated new every time, so even if you click on a package name, and the URL says one thing, the package data itself will be different (and change every time you refresh).

None of this is final, but we thought it would be a good idea for you all to see what we have so far.

If you have any feedback, please let us know.

Thanks,

-daryl

On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 7:18 PM Oytun Tez <[hidden email]> wrote:

Thank you, all! If there are operational tasks about the ecosystem page(s), let me know (organizing the content etc, whatever).

On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 2:14 PM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:

Thanks for the update Robert! Looking forward to the prototype! 

On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 10:07 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]> wrote:

Quick summary of our call:
Daryl will soon start with a front end, build against a very simple
mock-backend.
Congxian will start implementing the Spring-based backend early April.

As soon as the first prototype of the UI is ready, we'll share it here for
feedback.

On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 10:08 AM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Okay, great.
>
> Congxian Qiu, Daryl and I have a kick-off call later today at 2pm CET, 9pm
> China time about the design of the ecosystem page (see:
> https://github.com/rmetzger/flink-community-tools/issues/4)
> Please let me know if others want to join as well, I can add them to the
> invite.
>
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 4:10 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> I agree. We can start with english-only and see how it goes. The comments
>> and descriptions can always be multi-lingual but that is up to the package
>> owners.
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 6:07 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Do we actually want this page to be multi-language?
>>>
>>> I propose to make the website english-only, but maybe consider allowing
>>> comments in different languages.
>>> If we would make it multi-language, then we might have problems with
>>> people submitting packages in non-english languages.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 2:42 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Done. The writeup looks great!
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 9:09 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Nice, really good news on the INFRA front!
>>>>> I think the hardware specs sound reasonable. And a periodic backup of
>>>>> the website's database to Infra's backup solution sounds reasonable too.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you accept and review my proposal for the website?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 3:47 PM Becket Qin <[hidden email]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > I have a very capable and motivated frontend developer who would be
>>>>>> > willing to implement what I've mocked in my proposal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is awesome!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I created a Jira ticket[1] to Apache Infra and got the reply. It
>>>>>> looks that
>>>>>> Apache infra team could provide a decent VM. The last piece is how to
>>>>>> ensure the data is persisted so we won't lose the project info / user
>>>>>> feedbacks when the VM is down. If Apache infra does not provide a
>>>>>> persistent storage for DB backup, we can always ask for multiple VMs
>>>>>> and do
>>>>>> the fault tolerance by ourselves. It seems we can almost say the
>>>>>> hardware
>>>>>> side is also ready.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18010
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 5:39 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > Thank you for reaching out to Infra and the ember client.
>>>>>> > When I first saw the Ember repository, I thought it is the whole
>>>>>> thing
>>>>>> > (frontend and backend), but while testing it, I realized it is
>>>>>> "only" the
>>>>>> > frontend. I'm not sure if it makes sense to adjust the Ember
>>>>>> observer
>>>>>> > client, or just write a simple UI from scratch.
>>>>>> > I have a very capable and motivated frontend developer who would be
>>>>>> > willing to implement what I've mocked in my proposal.
>>>>>> > In addition, I found somebody (Congxian Qiu) who seems to be eager
>>>>>> to help
>>>>>> > with this project for the backend:
>>>>>> > https://github.com/rmetzger/flink-community-tools/issues/4
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > For Infra: I made the same experience when asking for more GitHub
>>>>>> > permissions for "flinkbot": They didn't respond on their mailing
>>>>>> list, only
>>>>>> > on Jira.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 2:45 PM Becket Qin <[hidden email]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> Thanks for writing up the specifications.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Regarding the website source code, Austin found a website[1] whose
>>>>>> >> frontend code[2] is available publicly. It lacks some support (e.g
>>>>>> login),
>>>>>> >> but it is still a good starting point. One thing is that I did not
>>>>>> find a
>>>>>> >> License statement for that source code. I'll reach out to the
>>>>>> author to see
>>>>>> >> if they have any concern over our usage.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Apache Infra has not replied to my email regarding some details
>>>>>> about the
>>>>>> >> VM. I'll open an infra Jira ticket tomorrow if there is still no
>>>>>> response.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Thanks,
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> [1] https://emberobserver.com/
>>>>>> >> [2] https://github.com/emberobserver/client
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 1:35 AM Robert Metzger <
>>>>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>> @Bowen: I agree. Confluent Hub looks nicer, but it is on their
>>>>>> company
>>>>>> >>> website. I guess the likelihood that they give out code from
>>>>>> their company
>>>>>> >>> website is fairly low.
>>>>>> >>> @Nils: Beam's page is similar to our Ecosystem page, which we'll
>>>>>> >>> reactivate as part of this PR:
>>>>>> >>> https://github.com/apache/flink-web/pull/187
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Spark-packages.org did not respond to my request.
>>>>>> >>> I will propose a short specification in Becket's initial document.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 11:38 AM Niels Basjes <[hidden email]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>> Hi,
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> The Beam project has something in this area that is simply a page
>>>>>> >>>> within their documentation website:
>>>>>> >>>> https://beam.apache.org/documentation/sdks/java-thirdparty/
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Niels Basjes
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 11:39 PM Bowen Li <[hidden email]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >
>>>>>> >>>> > Confluent hub for Kafka is another good example of this kind. I
>>>>>> >>>> personally like it over the spark site. May worth checking it
>>>>>> out with
>>>>>> >>>> Kafka folks
>>>>>> >>>> >
>>>>>> >>>> > On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 6:06 AM Becket Qin <
>>>>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> Absolutely! Thanks for the pointer. I'll submit a PR to
>>>>>> update the
>>>>>> >>>> >> ecosystem page and the navigation.
>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> Thanks,
>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 8:47 PM Robert Metzger <
>>>>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> > Okay. I will reach out to spark-packages.org and see if
>>>>>> they are
>>>>>> >>>> willing
>>>>>> >>>> >> > to share.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> > Do you want to raise a PR to update the ecosystem page
>>>>>> (maybe sync
>>>>>> >>>> with
>>>>>> >>>> >> > the "Software Projects" listed here:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/Powered+by+Flink)
>>>>>> >>>> and
>>>>>> >>>> >> > link it in the navigation?
>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> > Best,
>>>>>> >>>> >> > Robert
>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> > On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 10:13 AM Becket Qin <
>>>>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> Hi Robert,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> I think it at least worths checking if spark-packages.org
>>>>>> owners
>>>>>> >>>> are
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> willing to share. Thanks for volunteering to write the
>>>>>> requirement
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> descriptions! In any case, that will be very helpful.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> Since a static page has almost no cost, and we will need
>>>>>> it to
>>>>>> >>>> redirect
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> to the dynamic site anyways, how about we first do that
>>>>>> while
>>>>>> >>>> working on
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> the dynamic website?
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> Thanks,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 4:59 AM Ufuk Celebi <[hidden email]
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> I like Shaoxuan's idea to keep this a static site first.
>>>>>> We
>>>>>> >>>> could then
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> iterate on this and make it a dynamic thing. Of course,
>>>>>> if we
>>>>>> >>>> have the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> resources in the community to quickly start with a
>>>>>> dynamic site,
>>>>>> >>>> I'm
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> not apposed.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> – Ufuk
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 2:31 PM Robert Metzger <
>>>>>> >>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > Awesome! Thanks a lot for looking into this Becket! The
>>>>>> VMs
>>>>>> >>>> hosted by
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> Infra
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > look suitable.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > @Shaoxuan: There is actually already a static page. It
>>>>>> used to
>>>>>> >>>> be
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> linked,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > but has been removed from the navigation bar for some
>>>>>> reason.
>>>>>> >>>> This is
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > page: https://flink.apache.org/ecosystem.html
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > We could update the page and add it back to the
>>>>>> navigation bar
>>>>>> >>>> for the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > coming weeks. What do you think?
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > I would actually like to push for a dynamic page right
>>>>>> away.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > I know it's kind of a bold move, but how do you feel
>>>>>> about
>>>>>> >>>> sending the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > owners of spark-packages.org a short note, if they are
>>>>>> >>>> interested in
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > sharing the source? We could maintain the code together
>>>>>> in a
>>>>>> >>>> public
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> repo.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > If they are not interested in sharing, or we decide not
>>>>>> to ask
>>>>>> >>>> in the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> first
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > place, I'm happy to write down a short description of
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> >>>> requirements,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > maybe some mockups. We could then see if we find
>>>>>> somebody here
>>>>>> >>>> in the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > community who's willing to implement it.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > Given the number of people who are eager to contribute,
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> >>>> believe we
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> will
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > be able to find somebody pretty soon.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 3:49 AM Becket Qin <
>>>>>> >>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > > Forgot to provide the link...
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > > [1] https://www.apache.org/dev/services.html#blogs
>>>>>> (Apache
>>>>>> >>>> infra
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> services)
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > > [2] https://www.apache.org/dev/freebsd-jails
>>>>>> (FreeBSD Jail
>>>>>> >>>> provided
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> by
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > > Apache Infra)
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > > On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 10:46 AM Becket Qin <
>>>>>> >>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> Hi Robert,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> Thanks for the feedback. These are good points. We
>>>>>> should
>>>>>> >>>> absolutely
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> shoot for a dynamic website to support more
>>>>>> interactions in
>>>>>> >>>> the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> community.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> There might be a few things to solve:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> 1. The website code itself. An open source solution
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> >>>> be great.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> TBH,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> I do not have much experience on building a website.
>>>>>> It'll
>>>>>> >>>> be great
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> if
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> someone could help comment on the solution here.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> 2. The hardware to host the website. Apache Infra
>>>>>> provides
>>>>>> >>>> a few
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> services[1] that Apache projects can leverage. I did
>>>>>> not see
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> database
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> service, but maybe we can run a simple MySQL db in
>>>>>> FreeBSD
>>>>>> >>>> jail[2].
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> @Bowen & vino, thanks for the positive feedback!
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> @Shaoxuan Wang <[hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> Thanks for the suggestion. That sounds reasonable to
>>>>>> me. We
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> probably need
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> a page in the Flink official site anyways, even just
>>>>>> >>>> provide links
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> it to
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> the ecosystem website. So listing the connectors in
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> >>>> static
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> page seems
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> something we could start with while we are working
>>>>>> on the
>>>>>> >>>> dynamic
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> pages.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> Thanks,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 10:40 AM Shaoxuan Wang <
>>>>>> >>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> Hi Becket and Robert,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> I like this idea!  Let us roll this out with Flink
>>>>>> >>>> connectors at
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> first beginning. We can start with a static page,
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> >>>> upgrade it
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> when we
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> find a better solution for dynamic one with rich
>>>>>> functions.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> Regards,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> Shaoxuan
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 1:36 AM Robert Metzger <
>>>>>> >>>> [hidden email]
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> Hey Becket,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> This is a great idea!
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> For this to be successful, we need to make sure
>>>>>> the page
>>>>>> >>>> is placed
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> prominently so that the people submitting
>>>>>> something will
>>>>>> >>>> get
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> attention for
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> their contributions.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> I think a dynamic site would probably be better,
>>>>>> if we
>>>>>> >>>> want
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> features
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> such as up and downvoting or comments.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> I would also like this to be hosted on Apache
>>>>>> infra, and
>>>>>> >>>> endorsed
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> by
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> the community.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> Does anybody here know any existing software that
>>>>>> we
>>>>>> >>>> could use?
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> The only think I was able to find is AUR:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> https://aur.archlinux.org/
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> (which is a community packages site for Arch
>>>>>> Linux. The
>>>>>> >>>> source
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> code of this
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> portal is open source, but the layout and
>>>>>> structure is
>>>>>> >>>> not an
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> ideal fit for
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> our requirements)
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> Best,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> Robert
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 12:03 PM Becket Qin <
>>>>>> >>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> I would like to start a discussion thread about
>>>>>> creating
>>>>>> >>>> a Flink
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> ecosystem website. The website aims to help
>>>>>> contributors
>>>>>> >>>> who
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> have developed
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> projects around Flink share their work with the
>>>>>> >>>> community.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Please see the following doc for more details.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/12oCItoLbKrLGuwEUFcCfigezIR2hW3925j1hh3kGp4A/edit#
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> --
>>>>>> >>>> Best regards / Met vriendelijke groeten,
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Niels Basjes
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>

[Oytun Tez]

Daryl, looks very good, thank you! 

Only one feedback, I am attaching an image with 3 screenshots of the left sidebar from 3 sites: 

• https://flink.apache.org/
• https://ci.apache.org/projects/flink/flink-docs-release-1.8/
• https://flink-ecosystem-demo.flink-resources.org/#/packages
  

SS:

Maybe we can try to consolidate the sidebar in all 3 sites? This may be overreaching to homepage and doc maintainers as well. If that's a too involved process, perhaps the sidebar can at least have a gray background.

Thank you again!

On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 8:52 AM Daryl Roberts <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hello all,

We have deployed the first version of the UI prototype to the following URL: https://flink-ecosystem-demo.flink-resources.org/#/packages

It has some very basic functionality:

* list packages

* list packages by 'category'

* show a single package

* search that will take you to a search page

The data is all fake, and generated new every time, so even if you click on a package name, and the URL says one thing, the package data itself will be different (and change every time you refresh).

None of this is final, but we thought it would be a good idea for you all to see what we have so far.

If you have any feedback, please let us know.

Thanks,

-daryl

On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 7:18 PM Oytun Tez <[hidden email]> wrote:

Thank you, all! If there are operational tasks about the ecosystem page(s), let me know (organizing the content etc, whatever).

On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 2:14 PM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:

Thanks for the update Robert! Looking forward to the prototype! 

On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 10:07 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]> wrote:

Quick summary of our call:
Daryl will soon start with a front end, build against a very simple
mock-backend.
Congxian will start implementing the Spring-based backend early April.

As soon as the first prototype of the UI is ready, we'll share it here for
feedback.

On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 10:08 AM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Okay, great.
>
> Congxian Qiu, Daryl and I have a kick-off call later today at 2pm CET, 9pm
> China time about the design of the ecosystem page (see:
> https://github.com/rmetzger/flink-community-tools/issues/4)
> Please let me know if others want to join as well, I can add them to the
> invite.
>
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 4:10 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> I agree. We can start with english-only and see how it goes. The comments
>> and descriptions can always be multi-lingual but that is up to the package
>> owners.
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 6:07 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Do we actually want this page to be multi-language?
>>>
>>> I propose to make the website english-only, but maybe consider allowing
>>> comments in different languages.
>>> If we would make it multi-language, then we might have problems with
>>> people submitting packages in non-english languages.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 2:42 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Done. The writeup looks great!
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 9:09 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Nice, really good news on the INFRA front!
>>>>> I think the hardware specs sound reasonable. And a periodic backup of
>>>>> the website's database to Infra's backup solution sounds reasonable too.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you accept and review my proposal for the website?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 3:47 PM Becket Qin <[hidden email]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > I have a very capable and motivated frontend developer who would be
>>>>>> > willing to implement what I've mocked in my proposal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is awesome!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I created a Jira ticket[1] to Apache Infra and got the reply. It
>>>>>> looks that
>>>>>> Apache infra team could provide a decent VM. The last piece is how to
>>>>>> ensure the data is persisted so we won't lose the project info / user
>>>>>> feedbacks when the VM is down. If Apache infra does not provide a
>>>>>> persistent storage for DB backup, we can always ask for multiple VMs
>>>>>> and do
>>>>>> the fault tolerance by ourselves. It seems we can almost say the
>>>>>> hardware
>>>>>> side is also ready.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18010
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 5:39 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > Thank you for reaching out to Infra and the ember client.
>>>>>> > When I first saw the Ember repository, I thought it is the whole
>>>>>> thing
>>>>>> > (frontend and backend), but while testing it, I realized it is
>>>>>> "only" the
>>>>>> > frontend. I'm not sure if it makes sense to adjust the Ember
>>>>>> observer
>>>>>> > client, or just write a simple UI from scratch.
>>>>>> > I have a very capable and motivated frontend developer who would be
>>>>>> > willing to implement what I've mocked in my proposal.
>>>>>> > In addition, I found somebody (Congxian Qiu) who seems to be eager
>>>>>> to help
>>>>>> > with this project for the backend:
>>>>>> > https://github.com/rmetzger/flink-community-tools/issues/4
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > For Infra: I made the same experience when asking for more GitHub
>>>>>> > permissions for "flinkbot": They didn't respond on their mailing
>>>>>> list, only
>>>>>> > on Jira.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 2:45 PM Becket Qin <[hidden email]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> Thanks for writing up the specifications.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Regarding the website source code, Austin found a website[1] whose
>>>>>> >> frontend code[2] is available publicly. It lacks some support (e.g
>>>>>> login),
>>>>>> >> but it is still a good starting point. One thing is that I did not
>>>>>> find a
>>>>>> >> License statement for that source code. I'll reach out to the
>>>>>> author to see
>>>>>> >> if they have any concern over our usage.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Apache Infra has not replied to my email regarding some details
>>>>>> about the
>>>>>> >> VM. I'll open an infra Jira ticket tomorrow if there is still no
>>>>>> response.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Thanks,
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> [1] https://emberobserver.com/
>>>>>> >> [2] https://github.com/emberobserver/client
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 1:35 AM Robert Metzger <
>>>>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>> @Bowen: I agree. Confluent Hub looks nicer, but it is on their
>>>>>> company
>>>>>> >>> website. I guess the likelihood that they give out code from
>>>>>> their company
>>>>>> >>> website is fairly low.
>>>>>> >>> @Nils: Beam's page is similar to our Ecosystem page, which we'll
>>>>>> >>> reactivate as part of this PR:
>>>>>> >>> https://github.com/apache/flink-web/pull/187
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Spark-packages.org did not respond to my request.
>>>>>> >>> I will propose a short specification in Becket's initial document.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 11:38 AM Niels Basjes <[hidden email]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>> Hi,
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> The Beam project has something in this area that is simply a page
>>>>>> >>>> within their documentation website:
>>>>>> >>>> https://beam.apache.org/documentation/sdks/java-thirdparty/
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Niels Basjes
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 11:39 PM Bowen Li <[hidden email]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >
>>>>>> >>>> > Confluent hub for Kafka is another good example of this kind. I
>>>>>> >>>> personally like it over the spark site. May worth checking it
>>>>>> out with
>>>>>> >>>> Kafka folks
>>>>>> >>>> >
>>>>>> >>>> > On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 6:06 AM Becket Qin <
>>>>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> Absolutely! Thanks for the pointer. I'll submit a PR to
>>>>>> update the
>>>>>> >>>> >> ecosystem page and the navigation.
>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> Thanks,
>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 8:47 PM Robert Metzger <
>>>>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> > Okay. I will reach out to spark-packages.org and see if
>>>>>> they are
>>>>>> >>>> willing
>>>>>> >>>> >> > to share.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> > Do you want to raise a PR to update the ecosystem page
>>>>>> (maybe sync
>>>>>> >>>> with
>>>>>> >>>> >> > the "Software Projects" listed here:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/Powered+by+Flink)
>>>>>> >>>> and
>>>>>> >>>> >> > link it in the navigation?
>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> > Best,
>>>>>> >>>> >> > Robert
>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> > On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 10:13 AM Becket Qin <
>>>>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> Hi Robert,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> I think it at least worths checking if spark-packages.org
>>>>>> owners
>>>>>> >>>> are
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> willing to share. Thanks for volunteering to write the
>>>>>> requirement
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> descriptions! In any case, that will be very helpful.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> Since a static page has almost no cost, and we will need
>>>>>> it to
>>>>>> >>>> redirect
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> to the dynamic site anyways, how about we first do that
>>>>>> while
>>>>>> >>>> working on
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> the dynamic website?
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> Thanks,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 4:59 AM Ufuk Celebi <[hidden email]
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> I like Shaoxuan's idea to keep this a static site first.
>>>>>> We
>>>>>> >>>> could then
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> iterate on this and make it a dynamic thing. Of course,
>>>>>> if we
>>>>>> >>>> have the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> resources in the community to quickly start with a
>>>>>> dynamic site,
>>>>>> >>>> I'm
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> not apposed.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> – Ufuk
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 2:31 PM Robert Metzger <
>>>>>> >>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > Awesome! Thanks a lot for looking into this Becket! The
>>>>>> VMs
>>>>>> >>>> hosted by
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> Infra
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > look suitable.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > @Shaoxuan: There is actually already a static page. It
>>>>>> used to
>>>>>> >>>> be
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> linked,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > but has been removed from the navigation bar for some
>>>>>> reason.
>>>>>> >>>> This is
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > page: https://flink.apache.org/ecosystem.html
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > We could update the page and add it back to the
>>>>>> navigation bar
>>>>>> >>>> for the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > coming weeks. What do you think?
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > I would actually like to push for a dynamic page right
>>>>>> away.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > I know it's kind of a bold move, but how do you feel
>>>>>> about
>>>>>> >>>> sending the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > owners of spark-packages.org a short note, if they are
>>>>>> >>>> interested in
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > sharing the source? We could maintain the code together
>>>>>> in a
>>>>>> >>>> public
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> repo.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > If they are not interested in sharing, or we decide not
>>>>>> to ask
>>>>>> >>>> in the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> first
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > place, I'm happy to write down a short description of
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> >>>> requirements,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > maybe some mockups. We could then see if we find
>>>>>> somebody here
>>>>>> >>>> in the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > community who's willing to implement it.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > Given the number of people who are eager to contribute,
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> >>>> believe we
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> will
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > be able to find somebody pretty soon.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 3:49 AM Becket Qin <
>>>>>> >>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > > Forgot to provide the link...
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > > [1] https://www.apache.org/dev/services.html#blogs
>>>>>> (Apache
>>>>>> >>>> infra
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> services)
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > > [2] https://www.apache.org/dev/freebsd-jails
>>>>>> (FreeBSD Jail
>>>>>> >>>> provided
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> by
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > > Apache Infra)
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > > On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 10:46 AM Becket Qin <
>>>>>> >>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> Hi Robert,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> Thanks for the feedback. These are good points. We
>>>>>> should
>>>>>> >>>> absolutely
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> shoot for a dynamic website to support more
>>>>>> interactions in
>>>>>> >>>> the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> community.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> There might be a few things to solve:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> 1. The website code itself. An open source solution
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> >>>> be great.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> TBH,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> I do not have much experience on building a website.
>>>>>> It'll
>>>>>> >>>> be great
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> if
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> someone could help comment on the solution here.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> 2. The hardware to host the website. Apache Infra
>>>>>> provides
>>>>>> >>>> a few
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> services[1] that Apache projects can leverage. I did
>>>>>> not see
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> database
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> service, but maybe we can run a simple MySQL db in
>>>>>> FreeBSD
>>>>>> >>>> jail[2].
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> @Bowen & vino, thanks for the positive feedback!
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> @Shaoxuan Wang <[hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> Thanks for the suggestion. That sounds reasonable to
>>>>>> me. We
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> probably need
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> a page in the Flink official site anyways, even just
>>>>>> >>>> provide links
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> it to
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> the ecosystem website. So listing the connectors in
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> >>>> static
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> page seems
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> something we could start with while we are working
>>>>>> on the
>>>>>> >>>> dynamic
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> pages.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> Thanks,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 10:40 AM Shaoxuan Wang <
>>>>>> >>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> Hi Becket and Robert,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> I like this idea!  Let us roll this out with Flink
>>>>>> >>>> connectors at
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> first beginning. We can start with a static page,
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> >>>> upgrade it
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> when we
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> find a better solution for dynamic one with rich
>>>>>> functions.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> Regards,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> Shaoxuan
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 1:36 AM Robert Metzger <
>>>>>> >>>> [hidden email]
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> Hey Becket,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> This is a great idea!
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> For this to be successful, we need to make sure
>>>>>> the page
>>>>>> >>>> is placed
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> prominently so that the people submitting
>>>>>> something will
>>>>>> >>>> get
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> attention for
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> their contributions.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> I think a dynamic site would probably be better,
>>>>>> if we
>>>>>> >>>> want
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> features
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> such as up and downvoting or comments.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> I would also like this to be hosted on Apache
>>>>>> infra, and
>>>>>> >>>> endorsed
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> by
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> the community.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> Does anybody here know any existing software that
>>>>>> we
>>>>>> >>>> could use?
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> The only think I was able to find is AUR:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> https://aur.archlinux.org/
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> (which is a community packages site for Arch
>>>>>> Linux. The
>>>>>> >>>> source
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> code of this
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> portal is open source, but the layout and
>>>>>> structure is
>>>>>> >>>> not an
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> ideal fit for
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> our requirements)
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> Best,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> Robert
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 12:03 PM Becket Qin <
>>>>>> >>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> I would like to start a discussion thread about
>>>>>> creating
>>>>>> >>>> a Flink
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> ecosystem website. The website aims to help
>>>>>> contributors
>>>>>> >>>> who
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> have developed
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> projects around Flink share their work with the
>>>>>> >>>> community.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Please see the following doc for more details.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/12oCItoLbKrLGuwEUFcCfigezIR2hW3925j1hh3kGp4A/edit#
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> --
>>>>>> >>>> Best regards / Met vriendelijke groeten,
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Niels Basjes
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>

[Daryl Roberts]

I can definitely tweak the new on to come closer to matching the styles of the other 2.

I think all 3 sites are built with different UI frameworks, so to make them all identical might be a bit difficult, but we can get them closer :)

On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 3:17 PM Oytun Tez <[hidden email]> wrote:

Daryl, looks very good, thank you! 

Only one feedback, I am attaching an image with 3 screenshots of the left sidebar from 3 sites: 

• https://flink.apache.org/
• https://ci.apache.org/projects/flink/flink-docs-release-1.8/
• https://flink-ecosystem-demo.flink-resources.org/#/packages
  

SS:

Maybe we can try to consolidate the sidebar in all 3 sites? This may be overreaching to homepage and doc maintainers as well. If that's a too involved process, perhaps the sidebar can at least have a gray background.

Thank you again!

On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 8:52 AM Daryl Roberts <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hello all,

We have deployed the first version of the UI prototype to the following URL: https://flink-ecosystem-demo.flink-resources.org/#/packages

It has some very basic functionality:

* list packages

* list packages by 'category'

* show a single package

* search that will take you to a search page

The data is all fake, and generated new every time, so even if you click on a package name, and the URL says one thing, the package data itself will be different (and change every time you refresh).

None of this is final, but we thought it would be a good idea for you all to see what we have so far.

If you have any feedback, please let us know.

Thanks,

-daryl

On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 7:18 PM Oytun Tez <[hidden email]> wrote:

Thank you, all! If there are operational tasks about the ecosystem page(s), let me know (organizing the content etc, whatever).

On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 2:14 PM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:

Thanks for the update Robert! Looking forward to the prototype! 

On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 10:07 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]> wrote:

Quick summary of our call:
Daryl will soon start with a front end, build against a very simple
mock-backend.
Congxian will start implementing the Spring-based backend early April.

As soon as the first prototype of the UI is ready, we'll share it here for
feedback.

On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 10:08 AM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Okay, great.
>
> Congxian Qiu, Daryl and I have a kick-off call later today at 2pm CET, 9pm
> China time about the design of the ecosystem page (see:
> https://github.com/rmetzger/flink-community-tools/issues/4)
> Please let me know if others want to join as well, I can add them to the
> invite.
>
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 4:10 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> I agree. We can start with english-only and see how it goes. The comments
>> and descriptions can always be multi-lingual but that is up to the package
>> owners.
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 6:07 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Do we actually want this page to be multi-language?
>>>
>>> I propose to make the website english-only, but maybe consider allowing
>>> comments in different languages.
>>> If we would make it multi-language, then we might have problems with
>>> people submitting packages in non-english languages.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 2:42 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Done. The writeup looks great!
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 9:09 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Nice, really good news on the INFRA front!
>>>>> I think the hardware specs sound reasonable. And a periodic backup of
>>>>> the website's database to Infra's backup solution sounds reasonable too.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you accept and review my proposal for the website?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 3:47 PM Becket Qin <[hidden email]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > I have a very capable and motivated frontend developer who would be
>>>>>> > willing to implement what I've mocked in my proposal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is awesome!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I created a Jira ticket[1] to Apache Infra and got the reply. It
>>>>>> looks that
>>>>>> Apache infra team could provide a decent VM. The last piece is how to
>>>>>> ensure the data is persisted so we won't lose the project info / user
>>>>>> feedbacks when the VM is down. If Apache infra does not provide a
>>>>>> persistent storage for DB backup, we can always ask for multiple VMs
>>>>>> and do
>>>>>> the fault tolerance by ourselves. It seems we can almost say the
>>>>>> hardware
>>>>>> side is also ready.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18010
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 5:39 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > Thank you for reaching out to Infra and the ember client.
>>>>>> > When I first saw the Ember repository, I thought it is the whole
>>>>>> thing
>>>>>> > (frontend and backend), but while testing it, I realized it is
>>>>>> "only" the
>>>>>> > frontend. I'm not sure if it makes sense to adjust the Ember
>>>>>> observer
>>>>>> > client, or just write a simple UI from scratch.
>>>>>> > I have a very capable and motivated frontend developer who would be
>>>>>> > willing to implement what I've mocked in my proposal.
>>>>>> > In addition, I found somebody (Congxian Qiu) who seems to be eager
>>>>>> to help
>>>>>> > with this project for the backend:
>>>>>> > https://github.com/rmetzger/flink-community-tools/issues/4
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > For Infra: I made the same experience when asking for more GitHub
>>>>>> > permissions for "flinkbot": They didn't respond on their mailing
>>>>>> list, only
>>>>>> > on Jira.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 2:45 PM Becket Qin <[hidden email]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> Thanks for writing up the specifications.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Regarding the website source code, Austin found a website[1] whose
>>>>>> >> frontend code[2] is available publicly. It lacks some support (e.g
>>>>>> login),
>>>>>> >> but it is still a good starting point. One thing is that I did not
>>>>>> find a
>>>>>> >> License statement for that source code. I'll reach out to the
>>>>>> author to see
>>>>>> >> if they have any concern over our usage.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Apache Infra has not replied to my email regarding some details
>>>>>> about the
>>>>>> >> VM. I'll open an infra Jira ticket tomorrow if there is still no
>>>>>> response.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Thanks,
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> [1] https://emberobserver.com/
>>>>>> >> [2] https://github.com/emberobserver/client
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 1:35 AM Robert Metzger <
>>>>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>> @Bowen: I agree. Confluent Hub looks nicer, but it is on their
>>>>>> company
>>>>>> >>> website. I guess the likelihood that they give out code from
>>>>>> their company
>>>>>> >>> website is fairly low.
>>>>>> >>> @Nils: Beam's page is similar to our Ecosystem page, which we'll
>>>>>> >>> reactivate as part of this PR:
>>>>>> >>> https://github.com/apache/flink-web/pull/187
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Spark-packages.org did not respond to my request.
>>>>>> >>> I will propose a short specification in Becket's initial document.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 11:38 AM Niels Basjes <[hidden email]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>> Hi,
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> The Beam project has something in this area that is simply a page
>>>>>> >>>> within their documentation website:
>>>>>> >>>> https://beam.apache.org/documentation/sdks/java-thirdparty/
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Niels Basjes
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 11:39 PM Bowen Li <[hidden email]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >
>>>>>> >>>> > Confluent hub for Kafka is another good example of this kind. I
>>>>>> >>>> personally like it over the spark site. May worth checking it
>>>>>> out with
>>>>>> >>>> Kafka folks
>>>>>> >>>> >
>>>>>> >>>> > On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 6:06 AM Becket Qin <
>>>>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> Absolutely! Thanks for the pointer. I'll submit a PR to
>>>>>> update the
>>>>>> >>>> >> ecosystem page and the navigation.
>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> Thanks,
>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 8:47 PM Robert Metzger <
>>>>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> > Okay. I will reach out to spark-packages.org and see if
>>>>>> they are
>>>>>> >>>> willing
>>>>>> >>>> >> > to share.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> > Do you want to raise a PR to update the ecosystem page
>>>>>> (maybe sync
>>>>>> >>>> with
>>>>>> >>>> >> > the "Software Projects" listed here:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/Powered+by+Flink)
>>>>>> >>>> and
>>>>>> >>>> >> > link it in the navigation?
>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> > Best,
>>>>>> >>>> >> > Robert
>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> > On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 10:13 AM Becket Qin <
>>>>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> Hi Robert,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> I think it at least worths checking if spark-packages.org
>>>>>> owners
>>>>>> >>>> are
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> willing to share. Thanks for volunteering to write the
>>>>>> requirement
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> descriptions! In any case, that will be very helpful.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> Since a static page has almost no cost, and we will need
>>>>>> it to
>>>>>> >>>> redirect
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> to the dynamic site anyways, how about we first do that
>>>>>> while
>>>>>> >>>> working on
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> the dynamic website?
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> Thanks,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 4:59 AM Ufuk Celebi <[hidden email]
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> I like Shaoxuan's idea to keep this a static site first.
>>>>>> We
>>>>>> >>>> could then
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> iterate on this and make it a dynamic thing. Of course,
>>>>>> if we
>>>>>> >>>> have the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> resources in the community to quickly start with a
>>>>>> dynamic site,
>>>>>> >>>> I'm
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> not apposed.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> – Ufuk
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 2:31 PM Robert Metzger <
>>>>>> >>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > Awesome! Thanks a lot for looking into this Becket! The
>>>>>> VMs
>>>>>> >>>> hosted by
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> Infra
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > look suitable.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > @Shaoxuan: There is actually already a static page. It
>>>>>> used to
>>>>>> >>>> be
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> linked,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > but has been removed from the navigation bar for some
>>>>>> reason.
>>>>>> >>>> This is
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > page: https://flink.apache.org/ecosystem.html
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > We could update the page and add it back to the
>>>>>> navigation bar
>>>>>> >>>> for the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > coming weeks. What do you think?
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > I would actually like to push for a dynamic page right
>>>>>> away.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > I know it's kind of a bold move, but how do you feel
>>>>>> about
>>>>>> >>>> sending the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > owners of spark-packages.org a short note, if they are
>>>>>> >>>> interested in
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > sharing the source? We could maintain the code together
>>>>>> in a
>>>>>> >>>> public
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> repo.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > If they are not interested in sharing, or we decide not
>>>>>> to ask
>>>>>> >>>> in the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> first
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > place, I'm happy to write down a short description of
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> >>>> requirements,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > maybe some mockups. We could then see if we find
>>>>>> somebody here
>>>>>> >>>> in the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > community who's willing to implement it.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > Given the number of people who are eager to contribute,
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> >>>> believe we
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> will
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > be able to find somebody pretty soon.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 3:49 AM Becket Qin <
>>>>>> >>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > > Forgot to provide the link...
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > > [1] https://www.apache.org/dev/services.html#blogs
>>>>>> (Apache
>>>>>> >>>> infra
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> services)
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > > [2] https://www.apache.org/dev/freebsd-jails
>>>>>> (FreeBSD Jail
>>>>>> >>>> provided
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> by
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > > Apache Infra)
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > > On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 10:46 AM Becket Qin <
>>>>>> >>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> Hi Robert,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> Thanks for the feedback. These are good points. We
>>>>>> should
>>>>>> >>>> absolutely
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> shoot for a dynamic website to support more
>>>>>> interactions in
>>>>>> >>>> the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> community.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> There might be a few things to solve:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> 1. The website code itself. An open source solution
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> >>>> be great.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> TBH,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> I do not have much experience on building a website.
>>>>>> It'll
>>>>>> >>>> be great
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> if
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> someone could help comment on the solution here.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> 2. The hardware to host the website. Apache Infra
>>>>>> provides
>>>>>> >>>> a few
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> services[1] that Apache projects can leverage. I did
>>>>>> not see
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> database
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> service, but maybe we can run a simple MySQL db in
>>>>>> FreeBSD
>>>>>> >>>> jail[2].
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> @Bowen & vino, thanks for the positive feedback!
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> @Shaoxuan Wang <[hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> Thanks for the suggestion. That sounds reasonable to
>>>>>> me. We
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> probably need
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> a page in the Flink official site anyways, even just
>>>>>> >>>> provide links
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> it to
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> the ecosystem website. So listing the connectors in
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> >>>> static
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> page seems
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> something we could start with while we are working
>>>>>> on the
>>>>>> >>>> dynamic
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> pages.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> Thanks,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 10:40 AM Shaoxuan Wang <
>>>>>> >>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> Hi Becket and Robert,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> I like this idea!  Let us roll this out with Flink
>>>>>> >>>> connectors at
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> first beginning. We can start with a static page,
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> >>>> upgrade it
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> when we
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> find a better solution for dynamic one with rich
>>>>>> functions.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> Regards,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> Shaoxuan
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 1:36 AM Robert Metzger <
>>>>>> >>>> [hidden email]
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> Hey Becket,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> This is a great idea!
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> For this to be successful, we need to make sure
>>>>>> the page
>>>>>> >>>> is placed
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> prominently so that the people submitting
>>>>>> something will
>>>>>> >>>> get
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> attention for
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> their contributions.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> I think a dynamic site would probably be better,
>>>>>> if we
>>>>>> >>>> want
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> features
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> such as up and downvoting or comments.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> I would also like this to be hosted on Apache
>>>>>> infra, and
>>>>>> >>>> endorsed
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> by
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> the community.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> Does anybody here know any existing software that
>>>>>> we
>>>>>> >>>> could use?
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> The only think I was able to find is AUR:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> https://aur.archlinux.org/
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> (which is a community packages site for Arch
>>>>>> Linux. The
>>>>>> >>>> source
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> code of this
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> portal is open source, but the layout and
>>>>>> structure is
>>>>>> >>>> not an
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> ideal fit for
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> our requirements)
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> Best,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> Robert
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 12:03 PM Becket Qin <
>>>>>> >>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> I would like to start a discussion thread about
>>>>>> creating
>>>>>> >>>> a Flink
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> ecosystem website. The website aims to help
>>>>>> contributors
>>>>>> >>>> who
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> have developed
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> projects around Flink share their work with the
>>>>>> >>>> community.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Please see the following doc for more details.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/12oCItoLbKrLGuwEUFcCfigezIR2hW3925j1hh3kGp4A/edit#
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> --
>>>>>> >>>> Best regards / Met vriendelijke groeten,
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Niels Basjes
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>

[Oytun Tez]

Yep, I guessed so... Good luck! :)

On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 9:22 AM Daryl Roberts <[hidden email]> wrote:

I can definitely tweak the new on to come closer to matching the styles of the other 2.

I think all 3 sites are built with different UI frameworks, so to make them all identical might be a bit difficult, but we can get them closer :)

On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 3:17 PM Oytun Tez <[hidden email]> wrote:

Daryl, looks very good, thank you! 

Only one feedback, I am attaching an image with 3 screenshots of the left sidebar from 3 sites: 

• https://flink.apache.org/
• https://ci.apache.org/projects/flink/flink-docs-release-1.8/
• https://flink-ecosystem-demo.flink-resources.org/#/packages
  

SS:

Maybe we can try to consolidate the sidebar in all 3 sites? This may be overreaching to homepage and doc maintainers as well. If that's a too involved process, perhaps the sidebar can at least have a gray background.

Thank you again!

On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 8:52 AM Daryl Roberts <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hello all,

We have deployed the first version of the UI prototype to the following URL: https://flink-ecosystem-demo.flink-resources.org/#/packages

It has some very basic functionality:

* list packages

* list packages by 'category'

* show a single package

* search that will take you to a search page

The data is all fake, and generated new every time, so even if you click on a package name, and the URL says one thing, the package data itself will be different (and change every time you refresh).

None of this is final, but we thought it would be a good idea for you all to see what we have so far.

If you have any feedback, please let us know.

Thanks,

-daryl

On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 7:18 PM Oytun Tez <[hidden email]> wrote:

Thank you, all! If there are operational tasks about the ecosystem page(s), let me know (organizing the content etc, whatever).

On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 2:14 PM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:

Thanks for the update Robert! Looking forward to the prototype! 

On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 10:07 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]> wrote:

Quick summary of our call:
Daryl will soon start with a front end, build against a very simple
mock-backend.
Congxian will start implementing the Spring-based backend early April.

As soon as the first prototype of the UI is ready, we'll share it here for
feedback.

On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 10:08 AM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Okay, great.
>
> Congxian Qiu, Daryl and I have a kick-off call later today at 2pm CET, 9pm
> China time about the design of the ecosystem page (see:
> https://github.com/rmetzger/flink-community-tools/issues/4)
> Please let me know if others want to join as well, I can add them to the
> invite.
>
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 4:10 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> I agree. We can start with english-only and see how it goes. The comments
>> and descriptions can always be multi-lingual but that is up to the package
>> owners.
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 6:07 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Do we actually want this page to be multi-language?
>>>
>>> I propose to make the website english-only, but maybe consider allowing
>>> comments in different languages.
>>> If we would make it multi-language, then we might have problems with
>>> people submitting packages in non-english languages.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 2:42 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Done. The writeup looks great!
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 9:09 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Nice, really good news on the INFRA front!
>>>>> I think the hardware specs sound reasonable. And a periodic backup of
>>>>> the website's database to Infra's backup solution sounds reasonable too.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you accept and review my proposal for the website?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 3:47 PM Becket Qin <[hidden email]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > I have a very capable and motivated frontend developer who would be
>>>>>> > willing to implement what I've mocked in my proposal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is awesome!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I created a Jira ticket[1] to Apache Infra and got the reply. It
>>>>>> looks that
>>>>>> Apache infra team could provide a decent VM. The last piece is how to
>>>>>> ensure the data is persisted so we won't lose the project info / user
>>>>>> feedbacks when the VM is down. If Apache infra does not provide a
>>>>>> persistent storage for DB backup, we can always ask for multiple VMs
>>>>>> and do
>>>>>> the fault tolerance by ourselves. It seems we can almost say the
>>>>>> hardware
>>>>>> side is also ready.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18010
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 5:39 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > Thank you for reaching out to Infra and the ember client.
>>>>>> > When I first saw the Ember repository, I thought it is the whole
>>>>>> thing
>>>>>> > (frontend and backend), but while testing it, I realized it is
>>>>>> "only" the
>>>>>> > frontend. I'm not sure if it makes sense to adjust the Ember
>>>>>> observer
>>>>>> > client, or just write a simple UI from scratch.
>>>>>> > I have a very capable and motivated frontend developer who would be
>>>>>> > willing to implement what I've mocked in my proposal.
>>>>>> > In addition, I found somebody (Congxian Qiu) who seems to be eager
>>>>>> to help
>>>>>> > with this project for the backend:
>>>>>> > https://github.com/rmetzger/flink-community-tools/issues/4
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > For Infra: I made the same experience when asking for more GitHub
>>>>>> > permissions for "flinkbot": They didn't respond on their mailing
>>>>>> list, only
>>>>>> > on Jira.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 2:45 PM Becket Qin <[hidden email]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> Thanks for writing up the specifications.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Regarding the website source code, Austin found a website[1] whose
>>>>>> >> frontend code[2] is available publicly. It lacks some support (e.g
>>>>>> login),
>>>>>> >> but it is still a good starting point. One thing is that I did not
>>>>>> find a
>>>>>> >> License statement for that source code. I'll reach out to the
>>>>>> author to see
>>>>>> >> if they have any concern over our usage.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Apache Infra has not replied to my email regarding some details
>>>>>> about the
>>>>>> >> VM. I'll open an infra Jira ticket tomorrow if there is still no
>>>>>> response.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Thanks,
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> [1] https://emberobserver.com/
>>>>>> >> [2] https://github.com/emberobserver/client
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 1:35 AM Robert Metzger <
>>>>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>> @Bowen: I agree. Confluent Hub looks nicer, but it is on their
>>>>>> company
>>>>>> >>> website. I guess the likelihood that they give out code from
>>>>>> their company
>>>>>> >>> website is fairly low.
>>>>>> >>> @Nils: Beam's page is similar to our Ecosystem page, which we'll
>>>>>> >>> reactivate as part of this PR:
>>>>>> >>> https://github.com/apache/flink-web/pull/187
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Spark-packages.org did not respond to my request.
>>>>>> >>> I will propose a short specification in Becket's initial document.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 11:38 AM Niels Basjes <[hidden email]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>> Hi,
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> The Beam project has something in this area that is simply a page
>>>>>> >>>> within their documentation website:
>>>>>> >>>> https://beam.apache.org/documentation/sdks/java-thirdparty/
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Niels Basjes
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 11:39 PM Bowen Li <[hidden email]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >
>>>>>> >>>> > Confluent hub for Kafka is another good example of this kind. I
>>>>>> >>>> personally like it over the spark site. May worth checking it
>>>>>> out with
>>>>>> >>>> Kafka folks
>>>>>> >>>> >
>>>>>> >>>> > On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 6:06 AM Becket Qin <
>>>>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> Absolutely! Thanks for the pointer. I'll submit a PR to
>>>>>> update the
>>>>>> >>>> >> ecosystem page and the navigation.
>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> Thanks,
>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 8:47 PM Robert Metzger <
>>>>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> > Okay. I will reach out to spark-packages.org and see if
>>>>>> they are
>>>>>> >>>> willing
>>>>>> >>>> >> > to share.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> > Do you want to raise a PR to update the ecosystem page
>>>>>> (maybe sync
>>>>>> >>>> with
>>>>>> >>>> >> > the "Software Projects" listed here:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/Powered+by+Flink)
>>>>>> >>>> and
>>>>>> >>>> >> > link it in the navigation?
>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> > Best,
>>>>>> >>>> >> > Robert
>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> > On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 10:13 AM Becket Qin <
>>>>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> Hi Robert,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> I think it at least worths checking if spark-packages.org
>>>>>> owners
>>>>>> >>>> are
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> willing to share. Thanks for volunteering to write the
>>>>>> requirement
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> descriptions! In any case, that will be very helpful.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> Since a static page has almost no cost, and we will need
>>>>>> it to
>>>>>> >>>> redirect
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> to the dynamic site anyways, how about we first do that
>>>>>> while
>>>>>> >>>> working on
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> the dynamic website?
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> Thanks,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 4:59 AM Ufuk Celebi <[hidden email]
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> I like Shaoxuan's idea to keep this a static site first.
>>>>>> We
>>>>>> >>>> could then
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> iterate on this and make it a dynamic thing. Of course,
>>>>>> if we
>>>>>> >>>> have the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> resources in the community to quickly start with a
>>>>>> dynamic site,
>>>>>> >>>> I'm
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> not apposed.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> – Ufuk
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 2:31 PM Robert Metzger <
>>>>>> >>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > Awesome! Thanks a lot for looking into this Becket! The
>>>>>> VMs
>>>>>> >>>> hosted by
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> Infra
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > look suitable.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > @Shaoxuan: There is actually already a static page. It
>>>>>> used to
>>>>>> >>>> be
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> linked,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > but has been removed from the navigation bar for some
>>>>>> reason.
>>>>>> >>>> This is
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > page: https://flink.apache.org/ecosystem.html
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > We could update the page and add it back to the
>>>>>> navigation bar
>>>>>> >>>> for the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > coming weeks. What do you think?
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > I would actually like to push for a dynamic page right
>>>>>> away.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > I know it's kind of a bold move, but how do you feel
>>>>>> about
>>>>>> >>>> sending the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > owners of spark-packages.org a short note, if they are
>>>>>> >>>> interested in
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > sharing the source? We could maintain the code together
>>>>>> in a
>>>>>> >>>> public
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> repo.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > If they are not interested in sharing, or we decide not
>>>>>> to ask
>>>>>> >>>> in the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> first
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > place, I'm happy to write down a short description of
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> >>>> requirements,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > maybe some mockups. We could then see if we find
>>>>>> somebody here
>>>>>> >>>> in the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > community who's willing to implement it.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > Given the number of people who are eager to contribute,
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> >>>> believe we
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> will
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > be able to find somebody pretty soon.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 3:49 AM Becket Qin <
>>>>>> >>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > > Forgot to provide the link...
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > > [1] https://www.apache.org/dev/services.html#blogs
>>>>>> (Apache
>>>>>> >>>> infra
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> services)
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > > [2] https://www.apache.org/dev/freebsd-jails
>>>>>> (FreeBSD Jail
>>>>>> >>>> provided
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> by
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > > Apache Infra)
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > > On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 10:46 AM Becket Qin <
>>>>>> >>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> Hi Robert,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> Thanks for the feedback. These are good points. We
>>>>>> should
>>>>>> >>>> absolutely
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> shoot for a dynamic website to support more
>>>>>> interactions in
>>>>>> >>>> the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> community.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> There might be a few things to solve:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> 1. The website code itself. An open source solution
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> >>>> be great.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> TBH,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> I do not have much experience on building a website.
>>>>>> It'll
>>>>>> >>>> be great
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> if
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> someone could help comment on the solution here.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> 2. The hardware to host the website. Apache Infra
>>>>>> provides
>>>>>> >>>> a few
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> services[1] that Apache projects can leverage. I did
>>>>>> not see
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> database
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> service, but maybe we can run a simple MySQL db in
>>>>>> FreeBSD
>>>>>> >>>> jail[2].
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> @Bowen & vino, thanks for the positive feedback!
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> @Shaoxuan Wang <[hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> Thanks for the suggestion. That sounds reasonable to
>>>>>> me. We
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> probably need
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> a page in the Flink official site anyways, even just
>>>>>> >>>> provide links
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> it to
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> the ecosystem website. So listing the connectors in
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> >>>> static
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> page seems
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> something we could start with while we are working
>>>>>> on the
>>>>>> >>>> dynamic
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> pages.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> Thanks,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 10:40 AM Shaoxuan Wang <
>>>>>> >>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> Hi Becket and Robert,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> I like this idea!  Let us roll this out with Flink
>>>>>> >>>> connectors at
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> first beginning. We can start with a static page,
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> >>>> upgrade it
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> when we
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> find a better solution for dynamic one with rich
>>>>>> functions.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> Regards,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> Shaoxuan
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 1:36 AM Robert Metzger <
>>>>>> >>>> [hidden email]
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> Hey Becket,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> This is a great idea!
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> For this to be successful, we need to make sure
>>>>>> the page
>>>>>> >>>> is placed
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> prominently so that the people submitting
>>>>>> something will
>>>>>> >>>> get
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> attention for
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> their contributions.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> I think a dynamic site would probably be better,
>>>>>> if we
>>>>>> >>>> want
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> features
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> such as up and downvoting or comments.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> I would also like this to be hosted on Apache
>>>>>> infra, and
>>>>>> >>>> endorsed
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> by
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> the community.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> Does anybody here know any existing software that
>>>>>> we
>>>>>> >>>> could use?
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> The only think I was able to find is AUR:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> https://aur.archlinux.org/
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> (which is a community packages site for Arch
>>>>>> Linux. The
>>>>>> >>>> source
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> code of this
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> portal is open source, but the layout and
>>>>>> structure is
>>>>>> >>>> not an
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> ideal fit for
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> our requirements)
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> Best,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> Robert
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 12:03 PM Becket Qin <
>>>>>> >>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> I would like to start a discussion thread about
>>>>>> creating
>>>>>> >>>> a Flink
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> ecosystem website. The website aims to help
>>>>>> contributors
>>>>>> >>>> who
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> have developed
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> projects around Flink share their work with the
>>>>>> >>>> community.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Please see the following doc for more details.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/12oCItoLbKrLGuwEUFcCfigezIR2hW3925j1hh3kGp4A/edit#
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> --
>>>>>> >>>> Best regards / Met vriendelijke groeten,
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Niels Basjes
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>

[phoenixjiangnan]

Fancy, thanks Daryl! I can definitely tell Fresh Bacon and Frozen Tuna gonna be some big killer connectors :)

A couple feedbacks:

• Shall we add a guide page to show people how to publish their projects to the website? The exact rules can be discussed and drafted in a separate email thread IMO
  
• The "Log in with Github" link doesn't seem to work yet. Will it only allow login for admins and publishers, or for everyone?

Cheers! Bowen

On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 6:28 AM Oytun Tez <[hidden email]> wrote:

Yep, I guessed so... Good luck! :)

On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 9:22 AM Daryl Roberts <[hidden email]> wrote:

I can definitely tweak the new on to come closer to matching the styles of the other 2.

I think all 3 sites are built with different UI frameworks, so to make them all identical might be a bit difficult, but we can get them closer :)

On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 3:17 PM Oytun Tez <[hidden email]> wrote:

Daryl, looks very good, thank you! 

Only one feedback, I am attaching an image with 3 screenshots of the left sidebar from 3 sites: 

• https://flink.apache.org/
• https://ci.apache.org/projects/flink/flink-docs-release-1.8/
• https://flink-ecosystem-demo.flink-resources.org/#/packages
  

SS:

Maybe we can try to consolidate the sidebar in all 3 sites? This may be overreaching to homepage and doc maintainers as well. If that's a too involved process, perhaps the sidebar can at least have a gray background.

Thank you again!

On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 8:52 AM Daryl Roberts <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hello all,

We have deployed the first version of the UI prototype to the following URL: https://flink-ecosystem-demo.flink-resources.org/#/packages

It has some very basic functionality:

* list packages

* list packages by 'category'

* show a single package

* search that will take you to a search page

The data is all fake, and generated new every time, so even if you click on a package name, and the URL says one thing, the package data itself will be different (and change every time you refresh).

None of this is final, but we thought it would be a good idea for you all to see what we have so far.

If you have any feedback, please let us know.

Thanks,

-daryl

On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 7:18 PM Oytun Tez <[hidden email]> wrote:

Thank you, all! If there are operational tasks about the ecosystem page(s), let me know (organizing the content etc, whatever).

On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 2:14 PM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:

Thanks for the update Robert! Looking forward to the prototype! 

On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 10:07 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]> wrote:

Quick summary of our call:
Daryl will soon start with a front end, build against a very simple
mock-backend.
Congxian will start implementing the Spring-based backend early April.

As soon as the first prototype of the UI is ready, we'll share it here for
feedback.

On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 10:08 AM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Okay, great.
>
> Congxian Qiu, Daryl and I have a kick-off call later today at 2pm CET, 9pm
> China time about the design of the ecosystem page (see:
> https://github.com/rmetzger/flink-community-tools/issues/4)
> Please let me know if others want to join as well, I can add them to the
> invite.
>
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 4:10 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> I agree. We can start with english-only and see how it goes. The comments
>> and descriptions can always be multi-lingual but that is up to the package
>> owners.
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 6:07 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Do we actually want this page to be multi-language?
>>>
>>> I propose to make the website english-only, but maybe consider allowing
>>> comments in different languages.
>>> If we would make it multi-language, then we might have problems with
>>> people submitting packages in non-english languages.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 2:42 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Done. The writeup looks great!
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 9:09 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Nice, really good news on the INFRA front!
>>>>> I think the hardware specs sound reasonable. And a periodic backup of
>>>>> the website's database to Infra's backup solution sounds reasonable too.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you accept and review my proposal for the website?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 3:47 PM Becket Qin <[hidden email]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > I have a very capable and motivated frontend developer who would be
>>>>>> > willing to implement what I've mocked in my proposal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is awesome!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I created a Jira ticket[1] to Apache Infra and got the reply. It
>>>>>> looks that
>>>>>> Apache infra team could provide a decent VM. The last piece is how to
>>>>>> ensure the data is persisted so we won't lose the project info / user
>>>>>> feedbacks when the VM is down. If Apache infra does not provide a
>>>>>> persistent storage for DB backup, we can always ask for multiple VMs
>>>>>> and do
>>>>>> the fault tolerance by ourselves. It seems we can almost say the
>>>>>> hardware
>>>>>> side is also ready.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18010
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 5:39 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > Thank you for reaching out to Infra and the ember client.
>>>>>> > When I first saw the Ember repository, I thought it is the whole
>>>>>> thing
>>>>>> > (frontend and backend), but while testing it, I realized it is
>>>>>> "only" the
>>>>>> > frontend. I'm not sure if it makes sense to adjust the Ember
>>>>>> observer
>>>>>> > client, or just write a simple UI from scratch.
>>>>>> > I have a very capable and motivated frontend developer who would be
>>>>>> > willing to implement what I've mocked in my proposal.
>>>>>> > In addition, I found somebody (Congxian Qiu) who seems to be eager
>>>>>> to help
>>>>>> > with this project for the backend:
>>>>>> > https://github.com/rmetzger/flink-community-tools/issues/4
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > For Infra: I made the same experience when asking for more GitHub
>>>>>> > permissions for "flinkbot": They didn't respond on their mailing
>>>>>> list, only
>>>>>> > on Jira.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 2:45 PM Becket Qin <[hidden email]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> Thanks for writing up the specifications.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Regarding the website source code, Austin found a website[1] whose
>>>>>> >> frontend code[2] is available publicly. It lacks some support (e.g
>>>>>> login),
>>>>>> >> but it is still a good starting point. One thing is that I did not
>>>>>> find a
>>>>>> >> License statement for that source code. I'll reach out to the
>>>>>> author to see
>>>>>> >> if they have any concern over our usage.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Apache Infra has not replied to my email regarding some details
>>>>>> about the
>>>>>> >> VM. I'll open an infra Jira ticket tomorrow if there is still no
>>>>>> response.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Thanks,
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> [1] https://emberobserver.com/
>>>>>> >> [2] https://github.com/emberobserver/client
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 1:35 AM Robert Metzger <
>>>>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>> @Bowen: I agree. Confluent Hub looks nicer, but it is on their
>>>>>> company
>>>>>> >>> website. I guess the likelihood that they give out code from
>>>>>> their company
>>>>>> >>> website is fairly low.
>>>>>> >>> @Nils: Beam's page is similar to our Ecosystem page, which we'll
>>>>>> >>> reactivate as part of this PR:
>>>>>> >>> https://github.com/apache/flink-web/pull/187
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Spark-packages.org did not respond to my request.
>>>>>> >>> I will propose a short specification in Becket's initial document.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 11:38 AM Niels Basjes <[hidden email]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>> Hi,
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> The Beam project has something in this area that is simply a page
>>>>>> >>>> within their documentation website:
>>>>>> >>>> https://beam.apache.org/documentation/sdks/java-thirdparty/
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Niels Basjes
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 11:39 PM Bowen Li <[hidden email]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >
>>>>>> >>>> > Confluent hub for Kafka is another good example of this kind. I
>>>>>> >>>> personally like it over the spark site. May worth checking it
>>>>>> out with
>>>>>> >>>> Kafka folks
>>>>>> >>>> >
>>>>>> >>>> > On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 6:06 AM Becket Qin <
>>>>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> Absolutely! Thanks for the pointer. I'll submit a PR to
>>>>>> update the
>>>>>> >>>> >> ecosystem page and the navigation.
>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> Thanks,
>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 8:47 PM Robert Metzger <
>>>>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> > Okay. I will reach out to spark-packages.org and see if
>>>>>> they are
>>>>>> >>>> willing
>>>>>> >>>> >> > to share.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> > Do you want to raise a PR to update the ecosystem page
>>>>>> (maybe sync
>>>>>> >>>> with
>>>>>> >>>> >> > the "Software Projects" listed here:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/Powered+by+Flink)
>>>>>> >>>> and
>>>>>> >>>> >> > link it in the navigation?
>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> > Best,
>>>>>> >>>> >> > Robert
>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> > On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 10:13 AM Becket Qin <
>>>>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> Hi Robert,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> I think it at least worths checking if spark-packages.org
>>>>>> owners
>>>>>> >>>> are
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> willing to share. Thanks for volunteering to write the
>>>>>> requirement
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> descriptions! In any case, that will be very helpful.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> Since a static page has almost no cost, and we will need
>>>>>> it to
>>>>>> >>>> redirect
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> to the dynamic site anyways, how about we first do that
>>>>>> while
>>>>>> >>>> working on
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> the dynamic website?
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> Thanks,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 4:59 AM Ufuk Celebi <[hidden email]
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> I like Shaoxuan's idea to keep this a static site first.
>>>>>> We
>>>>>> >>>> could then
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> iterate on this and make it a dynamic thing. Of course,
>>>>>> if we
>>>>>> >>>> have the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> resources in the community to quickly start with a
>>>>>> dynamic site,
>>>>>> >>>> I'm
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> not apposed.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> – Ufuk
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 2:31 PM Robert Metzger <
>>>>>> >>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > Awesome! Thanks a lot for looking into this Becket! The
>>>>>> VMs
>>>>>> >>>> hosted by
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> Infra
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > look suitable.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > @Shaoxuan: There is actually already a static page. It
>>>>>> used to
>>>>>> >>>> be
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> linked,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > but has been removed from the navigation bar for some
>>>>>> reason.
>>>>>> >>>> This is
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > page: https://flink.apache.org/ecosystem.html
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > We could update the page and add it back to the
>>>>>> navigation bar
>>>>>> >>>> for the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > coming weeks. What do you think?
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > I would actually like to push for a dynamic page right
>>>>>> away.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > I know it's kind of a bold move, but how do you feel
>>>>>> about
>>>>>> >>>> sending the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > owners of spark-packages.org a short note, if they are
>>>>>> >>>> interested in
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > sharing the source? We could maintain the code together
>>>>>> in a
>>>>>> >>>> public
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> repo.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > If they are not interested in sharing, or we decide not
>>>>>> to ask
>>>>>> >>>> in the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> first
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > place, I'm happy to write down a short description of
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> >>>> requirements,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > maybe some mockups. We could then see if we find
>>>>>> somebody here
>>>>>> >>>> in the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > community who's willing to implement it.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > Given the number of people who are eager to contribute,
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> >>>> believe we
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> will
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > be able to find somebody pretty soon.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 3:49 AM Becket Qin <
>>>>>> >>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > > Forgot to provide the link...
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > > [1] https://www.apache.org/dev/services.html#blogs
>>>>>> (Apache
>>>>>> >>>> infra
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> services)
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > > [2] https://www.apache.org/dev/freebsd-jails
>>>>>> (FreeBSD Jail
>>>>>> >>>> provided
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> by
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > > Apache Infra)
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > > On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 10:46 AM Becket Qin <
>>>>>> >>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> Hi Robert,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> Thanks for the feedback. These are good points. We
>>>>>> should
>>>>>> >>>> absolutely
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> shoot for a dynamic website to support more
>>>>>> interactions in
>>>>>> >>>> the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> community.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> There might be a few things to solve:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> 1. The website code itself. An open source solution
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> >>>> be great.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> TBH,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> I do not have much experience on building a website.
>>>>>> It'll
>>>>>> >>>> be great
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> if
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> someone could help comment on the solution here.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> 2. The hardware to host the website. Apache Infra
>>>>>> provides
>>>>>> >>>> a few
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> services[1] that Apache projects can leverage. I did
>>>>>> not see
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> database
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> service, but maybe we can run a simple MySQL db in
>>>>>> FreeBSD
>>>>>> >>>> jail[2].
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> @Bowen & vino, thanks for the positive feedback!
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> @Shaoxuan Wang <[hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> Thanks for the suggestion. That sounds reasonable to
>>>>>> me. We
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> probably need
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> a page in the Flink official site anyways, even just
>>>>>> >>>> provide links
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> it to
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> the ecosystem website. So listing the connectors in
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> >>>> static
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> page seems
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> something we could start with while we are working
>>>>>> on the
>>>>>> >>>> dynamic
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> pages.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> Thanks,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 10:40 AM Shaoxuan Wang <
>>>>>> >>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> Hi Becket and Robert,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> I like this idea!  Let us roll this out with Flink
>>>>>> >>>> connectors at
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> first beginning. We can start with a static page,
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> >>>> upgrade it
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> when we
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> find a better solution for dynamic one with rich
>>>>>> functions.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> Regards,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> Shaoxuan
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 1:36 AM Robert Metzger <
>>>>>> >>>> [hidden email]
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> Hey Becket,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> This is a great idea!
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> For this to be successful, we need to make sure
>>>>>> the page
>>>>>> >>>> is placed
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> prominently so that the people submitting
>>>>>> something will
>>>>>> >>>> get
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> attention for
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> their contributions.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> I think a dynamic site would probably be better,
>>>>>> if we
>>>>>> >>>> want
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> features
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> such as up and downvoting or comments.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> I would also like this to be hosted on Apache
>>>>>> infra, and
>>>>>> >>>> endorsed
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> by
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> the community.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> Does anybody here know any existing software that
>>>>>> we
>>>>>> >>>> could use?
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> The only think I was able to find is AUR:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> https://aur.archlinux.org/
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> (which is a community packages site for Arch
>>>>>> Linux. The
>>>>>> >>>> source
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> code of this
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> portal is open source, but the layout and
>>>>>> structure is
>>>>>> >>>> not an
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> ideal fit for
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> our requirements)
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> Best,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> Robert
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 12:03 PM Becket Qin <
>>>>>> >>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> I would like to start a discussion thread about
>>>>>> creating
>>>>>> >>>> a Flink
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> ecosystem website. The website aims to help
>>>>>> contributors
>>>>>> >>>> who
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> have developed
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> projects around Flink share their work with the
>>>>>> >>>> community.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Please see the following doc for more details.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/12oCItoLbKrLGuwEUFcCfigezIR2hW3925j1hh3kGp4A/edit#
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> --
>>>>>> >>>> Best regards / Met vriendelijke groeten,
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Niels Basjes
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>

[Daryl Roberts]

> Shall we add a guide page to show people how to publish their projects to the website? The exact rules can be discussed and drafted in a separate email thread IMO

This is a good idea. (Both the guise, and separate thread), I think once there is an actual packed in place we’ll be in a lot better position to discuss this. 

> The "Log in with Github" link doesn't seem to work yet. Will it only allow login for admins and publishers, or for everyone?

Correct, all the oauth stuff requires a real server. We are currently just faking everything.

I will add a mock-login page (username/password that just accepts anything and displays whatever username you type in) so we can see the add-comment field and add-packages page once they exist. 

On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 18:45 Bowen Li <[hidden email]> wrote:

Fancy, thanks Daryl! I can definitely tell Fresh Bacon and Frozen Tuna gonna be some big killer connectors :)

A couple feedbacks:

• Shall we add a guide page to show people how to publish their projects to the website? The exact rules can be discussed and drafted in a separate email thread IMO
  
• The "Log in with Github" link doesn't seem to work yet. Will it only allow login for admins and publishers, or for everyone?

Cheers! Bowen

On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 6:28 AM Oytun Tez <[hidden email]> wrote:

Yep, I guessed so... Good luck! :)

On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 9:22 AM Daryl Roberts <[hidden email]> wrote:

I can definitely tweak the new on to come closer to matching the styles of the other 2.

I think all 3 sites are built with different UI frameworks, so to make them all identical might be a bit difficult, but we can get them closer :)

On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 3:17 PM Oytun Tez <[hidden email]> wrote:

Daryl, looks very good, thank you! 

Only one feedback, I am attaching an image with 3 screenshots of the left sidebar from 3 sites: 

• https://flink.apache.org/
• https://ci.apache.org/projects/flink/flink-docs-release-1.8/
• https://flink-ecosystem-demo.flink-resources.org/#/packages
  

SS:

Maybe we can try to consolidate the sidebar in all 3 sites? This may be overreaching to homepage and doc maintainers as well. If that's a too involved process, perhaps the sidebar can at least have a gray background.

Thank you again!

On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 8:52 AM Daryl Roberts <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hello all,

We have deployed the first version of the UI prototype to the following URL: https://flink-ecosystem-demo.flink-resources.org/#/packages

It has some very basic functionality:

* list packages

* list packages by 'category'

* show a single package

* search that will take you to a search page

The data is all fake, and generated new every time, so even if you click on a package name, and the URL says one thing, the package data itself will be different (and change every time you refresh).

None of this is final, but we thought it would be a good idea for you all to see what we have so far.

If you have any feedback, please let us know.

Thanks,

-daryl

On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 7:18 PM Oytun Tez <[hidden email]> wrote:

Thank you, all! If there are operational tasks about the ecosystem page(s), let me know (organizing the content etc, whatever).

On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 2:14 PM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:

Thanks for the update Robert! Looking forward to the prototype! 

On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 10:07 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]> wrote:

Quick summary of our call:
Daryl will soon start with a front end, build against a very simple
mock-backend.
Congxian will start implementing the Spring-based backend early April.

As soon as the first prototype of the UI is ready, we'll share it here for
feedback.

On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 10:08 AM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Okay, great.
>
> Congxian Qiu, Daryl and I have a kick-off call later today at 2pm CET, 9pm
> China time about the design of the ecosystem page (see:
> https://github.com/rmetzger/flink-community-tools/issues/4)
> Please let me know if others want to join as well, I can add them to the
> invite.
>
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 4:10 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> I agree. We can start with english-only and see how it goes. The comments
>> and descriptions can always be multi-lingual but that is up to the package
>> owners.
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 6:07 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Do we actually want this page to be multi-language?
>>>
>>> I propose to make the website english-only, but maybe consider allowing
>>> comments in different languages.
>>> If we would make it multi-language, then we might have problems with
>>> people submitting packages in non-english languages.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 2:42 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Done. The writeup looks great!
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 9:09 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Nice, really good news on the INFRA front!
>>>>> I think the hardware specs sound reasonable. And a periodic backup of
>>>>> the website's database to Infra's backup solution sounds reasonable too.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you accept and review my proposal for the website?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 3:47 PM Becket Qin <[hidden email]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > I have a very capable and motivated frontend developer who would be
>>>>>> > willing to implement what I've mocked in my proposal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is awesome!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I created a Jira ticket[1] to Apache Infra and got the reply. It
>>>>>> looks that
>>>>>> Apache infra team could provide a decent VM. The last piece is how to
>>>>>> ensure the data is persisted so we won't lose the project info / user
>>>>>> feedbacks when the VM is down. If Apache infra does not provide a
>>>>>> persistent storage for DB backup, we can always ask for multiple VMs
>>>>>> and do
>>>>>> the fault tolerance by ourselves. It seems we can almost say the
>>>>>> hardware
>>>>>> side is also ready.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18010
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 5:39 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > Thank you for reaching out to Infra and the ember client.
>>>>>> > When I first saw the Ember repository, I thought it is the whole
>>>>>> thing
>>>>>> > (frontend and backend), but while testing it, I realized it is
>>>>>> "only" the
>>>>>> > frontend. I'm not sure if it makes sense to adjust the Ember
>>>>>> observer
>>>>>> > client, or just write a simple UI from scratch.
>>>>>> > I have a very capable and motivated frontend developer who would be
>>>>>> > willing to implement what I've mocked in my proposal.
>>>>>> > In addition, I found somebody (Congxian Qiu) who seems to be eager
>>>>>> to help
>>>>>> > with this project for the backend:
>>>>>> > https://github.com/rmetzger/flink-community-tools/issues/4
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > For Infra: I made the same experience when asking for more GitHub
>>>>>> > permissions for "flinkbot": They didn't respond on their mailing
>>>>>> list, only
>>>>>> > on Jira.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 2:45 PM Becket Qin <[hidden email]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> Thanks for writing up the specifications.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Regarding the website source code, Austin found a website[1] whose
>>>>>> >> frontend code[2] is available publicly. It lacks some support (e.g
>>>>>> login),
>>>>>> >> but it is still a good starting point. One thing is that I did not
>>>>>> find a
>>>>>> >> License statement for that source code. I'll reach out to the
>>>>>> author to see
>>>>>> >> if they have any concern over our usage.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Apache Infra has not replied to my email regarding some details
>>>>>> about the
>>>>>> >> VM. I'll open an infra Jira ticket tomorrow if there is still no
>>>>>> response.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Thanks,
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> [1] https://emberobserver.com/
>>>>>> >> [2] https://github.com/emberobserver/client
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 1:35 AM Robert Metzger <
>>>>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>> @Bowen: I agree. Confluent Hub looks nicer, but it is on their
>>>>>> company
>>>>>> >>> website. I guess the likelihood that they give out code from
>>>>>> their company
>>>>>> >>> website is fairly low.
>>>>>> >>> @Nils: Beam's page is similar to our Ecosystem page, which we'll
>>>>>> >>> reactivate as part of this PR:
>>>>>> >>> https://github.com/apache/flink-web/pull/187
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Spark-packages.org did not respond to my request.
>>>>>> >>> I will propose a short specification in Becket's initial document.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 11:38 AM Niels Basjes <[hidden email]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>> Hi,
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> The Beam project has something in this area that is simply a page
>>>>>> >>>> within their documentation website:
>>>>>> >>>> https://beam.apache.org/documentation/sdks/java-thirdparty/
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Niels Basjes
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 11:39 PM Bowen Li <[hidden email]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >
>>>>>> >>>> > Confluent hub for Kafka is another good example of this kind. I
>>>>>> >>>> personally like it over the spark site. May worth checking it
>>>>>> out with
>>>>>> >>>> Kafka folks
>>>>>> >>>> >
>>>>>> >>>> > On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 6:06 AM Becket Qin <
>>>>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> Absolutely! Thanks for the pointer. I'll submit a PR to
>>>>>> update the
>>>>>> >>>> >> ecosystem page and the navigation.
>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> Thanks,
>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 8:47 PM Robert Metzger <
>>>>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> > Okay. I will reach out to spark-packages.org and see if
>>>>>> they are
>>>>>> >>>> willing
>>>>>> >>>> >> > to share.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> > Do you want to raise a PR to update the ecosystem page
>>>>>> (maybe sync
>>>>>> >>>> with
>>>>>> >>>> >> > the "Software Projects" listed here:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/Powered+by+Flink)
>>>>>> >>>> and
>>>>>> >>>> >> > link it in the navigation?
>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> > Best,
>>>>>> >>>> >> > Robert
>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> > On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 10:13 AM Becket Qin <
>>>>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> Hi Robert,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> I think it at least worths checking if spark-packages.org
>>>>>> owners
>>>>>> >>>> are
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> willing to share. Thanks for volunteering to write the
>>>>>> requirement
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> descriptions! In any case, that will be very helpful.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> Since a static page has almost no cost, and we will need
>>>>>> it to
>>>>>> >>>> redirect
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> to the dynamic site anyways, how about we first do that
>>>>>> while
>>>>>> >>>> working on
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> the dynamic website?
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> Thanks,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 4:59 AM Ufuk Celebi <[hidden email]
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> I like Shaoxuan's idea to keep this a static site first.
>>>>>> We
>>>>>> >>>> could then
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> iterate on this and make it a dynamic thing. Of course,
>>>>>> if we
>>>>>> >>>> have the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> resources in the community to quickly start with a
>>>>>> dynamic site,
>>>>>> >>>> I'm
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> not apposed.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> – Ufuk
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 2:31 PM Robert Metzger <
>>>>>> >>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > Awesome! Thanks a lot for looking into this Becket! The
>>>>>> VMs
>>>>>> >>>> hosted by
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> Infra
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > look suitable.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > @Shaoxuan: There is actually already a static page. It
>>>>>> used to
>>>>>> >>>> be
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> linked,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > but has been removed from the navigation bar for some
>>>>>> reason.
>>>>>> >>>> This is
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > page: https://flink.apache.org/ecosystem.html
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > We could update the page and add it back to the
>>>>>> navigation bar
>>>>>> >>>> for the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > coming weeks. What do you think?
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > I would actually like to push for a dynamic page right
>>>>>> away.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > I know it's kind of a bold move, but how do you feel
>>>>>> about
>>>>>> >>>> sending the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > owners of spark-packages.org a short note, if they are
>>>>>> >>>> interested in
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > sharing the source? We could maintain the code together
>>>>>> in a
>>>>>> >>>> public
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> repo.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > If they are not interested in sharing, or we decide not
>>>>>> to ask
>>>>>> >>>> in the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> first
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > place, I'm happy to write down a short description of
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> >>>> requirements,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > maybe some mockups. We could then see if we find
>>>>>> somebody here
>>>>>> >>>> in the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > community who's willing to implement it.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > Given the number of people who are eager to contribute,
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> >>>> believe we
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> will
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > be able to find somebody pretty soon.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 3:49 AM Becket Qin <
>>>>>> >>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > > Forgot to provide the link...
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > > [1] https://www.apache.org/dev/services.html#blogs
>>>>>> (Apache
>>>>>> >>>> infra
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> services)
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > > [2] https://www.apache.org/dev/freebsd-jails
>>>>>> (FreeBSD Jail
>>>>>> >>>> provided
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> by
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > > Apache Infra)
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > > On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 10:46 AM Becket Qin <
>>>>>> >>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> Hi Robert,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> Thanks for the feedback. These are good points. We
>>>>>> should
>>>>>> >>>> absolutely
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> shoot for a dynamic website to support more
>>>>>> interactions in
>>>>>> >>>> the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> community.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> There might be a few things to solve:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> 1. The website code itself. An open source solution
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> >>>> be great.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> TBH,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> I do not have much experience on building a website.
>>>>>> It'll
>>>>>> >>>> be great
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> if
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> someone could help comment on the solution here.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> 2. The hardware to host the website. Apache Infra
>>>>>> provides
>>>>>> >>>> a few
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> services[1] that Apache projects can leverage. I did
>>>>>> not see
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> database
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> service, but maybe we can run a simple MySQL db in
>>>>>> FreeBSD
>>>>>> >>>> jail[2].
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> @Bowen & vino, thanks for the positive feedback!
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> @Shaoxuan Wang <[hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> Thanks for the suggestion. That sounds reasonable to
>>>>>> me. We
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> probably need
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> a page in the Flink official site anyways, even just
>>>>>> >>>> provide links
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> it to
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> the ecosystem website. So listing the connectors in
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> >>>> static
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> page seems
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> something we could start with while we are working
>>>>>> on the
>>>>>> >>>> dynamic
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> pages.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> Thanks,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 10:40 AM Shaoxuan Wang <
>>>>>> >>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> Hi Becket and Robert,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> I like this idea!  Let us roll this out with Flink
>>>>>> >>>> connectors at
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> first beginning. We can start with a static page,
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> >>>> upgrade it
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> when we
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> find a better solution for dynamic one with rich
>>>>>> functions.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> Regards,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> Shaoxuan
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 1:36 AM Robert Metzger <
>>>>>> >>>> [hidden email]
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> Hey Becket,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> This is a great idea!
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> For this to be successful, we need to make sure
>>>>>> the page
>>>>>> >>>> is placed
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> prominently so that the people submitting
>>>>>> something will
>>>>>> >>>> get
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> attention for
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> their contributions.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> I think a dynamic site would probably be better,
>>>>>> if we
>>>>>> >>>> want
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> features
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> such as up and downvoting or comments.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> I would also like this to be hosted on Apache
>>>>>> infra, and
>>>>>> >>>> endorsed
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> by
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> the community.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> Does anybody here know any existing software that
>>>>>> we
>>>>>> >>>> could use?
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> The only think I was able to find is AUR:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> https://aur.archlinux.org/
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> (which is a community packages site for Arch
>>>>>> Linux. The
>>>>>> >>>> source
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> code of this
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> portal is open source, but the layout and
>>>>>> structure is
>>>>>> >>>> not an
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> ideal fit for
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> our requirements)
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> Best,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> Robert
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 12:03 PM Becket Qin <
>>>>>> >>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> I would like to start a discussion thread about
>>>>>> creating
>>>>>> >>>> a Flink
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> ecosystem website. The website aims to help
>>>>>> contributors
>>>>>> >>>> who
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> have developed
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> projects around Flink share their work with the
>>>>>> >>>> community.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Please see the following doc for more details.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/12oCItoLbKrLGuwEUFcCfigezIR2hW3925j1hh3kGp4A/edit#
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> --
>>>>>> >>>> Best regards / Met vriendelijke groeten,
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Niels Basjes
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>

[Becket Qin]

Hi Daryl,

Thanks a lot for the update. The site looks awesome! This is a great progress. I really like the conciseness of GUI.

One minor suggestion is that for the same library, there might be multiple versions compatible with different Flink versions. It would be good to show that somewhere in the project page as it seems important to the users.

BTW, will you share the plan to move forward? Would additional hands help?

Thanks,

Jiangjie (Becket) Qin

On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 7:10 PM Daryl Roberts <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Shall we add a guide page to show people how to publish their projects to the website? The exact rules can be discussed and drafted in a separate email thread IMO

This is a good idea. (Both the guise, and separate thread), I think once there is an actual packed in place we’ll be in a lot better position to discuss this. 

> The "Log in with Github" link doesn't seem to work yet. Will it only allow login for admins and publishers, or for everyone?

Correct, all the oauth stuff requires a real server. We are currently just faking everything.

I will add a mock-login page (username/password that just accepts anything and displays whatever username you type in) so we can see the add-comment field and add-packages page once they exist. 

On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 18:45 Bowen Li <[hidden email]> wrote:

Fancy, thanks Daryl! I can definitely tell Fresh Bacon and Frozen Tuna gonna be some big killer connectors :)

A couple feedbacks:

• Shall we add a guide page to show people how to publish their projects to the website? The exact rules can be discussed and drafted in a separate email thread IMO
  
• The "Log in with Github" link doesn't seem to work yet. Will it only allow login for admins and publishers, or for everyone?

Cheers! Bowen

On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 6:28 AM Oytun Tez <[hidden email]> wrote:

Yep, I guessed so... Good luck! :)

On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 9:22 AM Daryl Roberts <[hidden email]> wrote:

I can definitely tweak the new on to come closer to matching the styles of the other 2.

I think all 3 sites are built with different UI frameworks, so to make them all identical might be a bit difficult, but we can get them closer :)

On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 3:17 PM Oytun Tez <[hidden email]> wrote:

Daryl, looks very good, thank you! 

Only one feedback, I am attaching an image with 3 screenshots of the left sidebar from 3 sites: 

• https://flink.apache.org/
• https://ci.apache.org/projects/flink/flink-docs-release-1.8/
• https://flink-ecosystem-demo.flink-resources.org/#/packages
  

SS:

Maybe we can try to consolidate the sidebar in all 3 sites? This may be overreaching to homepage and doc maintainers as well. If that's a too involved process, perhaps the sidebar can at least have a gray background.

Thank you again!

On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 8:52 AM Daryl Roberts <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hello all,

We have deployed the first version of the UI prototype to the following URL: https://flink-ecosystem-demo.flink-resources.org/#/packages

It has some very basic functionality:

* list packages

* list packages by 'category'

* show a single package

* search that will take you to a search page

The data is all fake, and generated new every time, so even if you click on a package name, and the URL says one thing, the package data itself will be different (and change every time you refresh).

None of this is final, but we thought it would be a good idea for you all to see what we have so far.

If you have any feedback, please let us know.

Thanks,

-daryl

On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 7:18 PM Oytun Tez <[hidden email]> wrote:

Thank you, all! If there are operational tasks about the ecosystem page(s), let me know (organizing the content etc, whatever).

On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 2:14 PM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:

Thanks for the update Robert! Looking forward to the prototype! 

On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 10:07 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]> wrote:

Quick summary of our call:
Daryl will soon start with a front end, build against a very simple
mock-backend.
Congxian will start implementing the Spring-based backend early April.

As soon as the first prototype of the UI is ready, we'll share it here for
feedback.

On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 10:08 AM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Okay, great.
>
> Congxian Qiu, Daryl and I have a kick-off call later today at 2pm CET, 9pm
> China time about the design of the ecosystem page (see:
> https://github.com/rmetzger/flink-community-tools/issues/4)
> Please let me know if others want to join as well, I can add them to the
> invite.
>
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 4:10 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> I agree. We can start with english-only and see how it goes. The comments
>> and descriptions can always be multi-lingual but that is up to the package
>> owners.
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 6:07 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Do we actually want this page to be multi-language?
>>>
>>> I propose to make the website english-only, but maybe consider allowing
>>> comments in different languages.
>>> If we would make it multi-language, then we might have problems with
>>> people submitting packages in non-english languages.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 2:42 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Done. The writeup looks great!
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 9:09 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Nice, really good news on the INFRA front!
>>>>> I think the hardware specs sound reasonable. And a periodic backup of
>>>>> the website's database to Infra's backup solution sounds reasonable too.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you accept and review my proposal for the website?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 3:47 PM Becket Qin <[hidden email]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > I have a very capable and motivated frontend developer who would be
>>>>>> > willing to implement what I've mocked in my proposal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is awesome!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I created a Jira ticket[1] to Apache Infra and got the reply. It
>>>>>> looks that
>>>>>> Apache infra team could provide a decent VM. The last piece is how to
>>>>>> ensure the data is persisted so we won't lose the project info / user
>>>>>> feedbacks when the VM is down. If Apache infra does not provide a
>>>>>> persistent storage for DB backup, we can always ask for multiple VMs
>>>>>> and do
>>>>>> the fault tolerance by ourselves. It seems we can almost say the
>>>>>> hardware
>>>>>> side is also ready.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18010
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 5:39 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > Thank you for reaching out to Infra and the ember client.
>>>>>> > When I first saw the Ember repository, I thought it is the whole
>>>>>> thing
>>>>>> > (frontend and backend), but while testing it, I realized it is
>>>>>> "only" the
>>>>>> > frontend. I'm not sure if it makes sense to adjust the Ember
>>>>>> observer
>>>>>> > client, or just write a simple UI from scratch.
>>>>>> > I have a very capable and motivated frontend developer who would be
>>>>>> > willing to implement what I've mocked in my proposal.
>>>>>> > In addition, I found somebody (Congxian Qiu) who seems to be eager
>>>>>> to help
>>>>>> > with this project for the backend:
>>>>>> > https://github.com/rmetzger/flink-community-tools/issues/4
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > For Infra: I made the same experience when asking for more GitHub
>>>>>> > permissions for "flinkbot": They didn't respond on their mailing
>>>>>> list, only
>>>>>> > on Jira.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 2:45 PM Becket Qin <[hidden email]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> Thanks for writing up the specifications.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Regarding the website source code, Austin found a website[1] whose
>>>>>> >> frontend code[2] is available publicly. It lacks some support (e.g
>>>>>> login),
>>>>>> >> but it is still a good starting point. One thing is that I did not
>>>>>> find a
>>>>>> >> License statement for that source code. I'll reach out to the
>>>>>> author to see
>>>>>> >> if they have any concern over our usage.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Apache Infra has not replied to my email regarding some details
>>>>>> about the
>>>>>> >> VM. I'll open an infra Jira ticket tomorrow if there is still no
>>>>>> response.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Thanks,
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> [1] https://emberobserver.com/
>>>>>> >> [2] https://github.com/emberobserver/client
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 1:35 AM Robert Metzger <
>>>>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>> @Bowen: I agree. Confluent Hub looks nicer, but it is on their
>>>>>> company
>>>>>> >>> website. I guess the likelihood that they give out code from
>>>>>> their company
>>>>>> >>> website is fairly low.
>>>>>> >>> @Nils: Beam's page is similar to our Ecosystem page, which we'll
>>>>>> >>> reactivate as part of this PR:
>>>>>> >>> https://github.com/apache/flink-web/pull/187
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Spark-packages.org did not respond to my request.
>>>>>> >>> I will propose a short specification in Becket's initial document.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 11:38 AM Niels Basjes <[hidden email]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>> Hi,
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> The Beam project has something in this area that is simply a page
>>>>>> >>>> within their documentation website:
>>>>>> >>>> https://beam.apache.org/documentation/sdks/java-thirdparty/
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Niels Basjes
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 11:39 PM Bowen Li <[hidden email]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >
>>>>>> >>>> > Confluent hub for Kafka is another good example of this kind. I
>>>>>> >>>> personally like it over the spark site. May worth checking it
>>>>>> out with
>>>>>> >>>> Kafka folks
>>>>>> >>>> >
>>>>>> >>>> > On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 6:06 AM Becket Qin <
>>>>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> Absolutely! Thanks for the pointer. I'll submit a PR to
>>>>>> update the
>>>>>> >>>> >> ecosystem page and the navigation.
>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> Thanks,
>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 8:47 PM Robert Metzger <
>>>>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> > Okay. I will reach out to spark-packages.org and see if
>>>>>> they are
>>>>>> >>>> willing
>>>>>> >>>> >> > to share.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> > Do you want to raise a PR to update the ecosystem page
>>>>>> (maybe sync
>>>>>> >>>> with
>>>>>> >>>> >> > the "Software Projects" listed here:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/Powered+by+Flink)
>>>>>> >>>> and
>>>>>> >>>> >> > link it in the navigation?
>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> > Best,
>>>>>> >>>> >> > Robert
>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> > On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 10:13 AM Becket Qin <
>>>>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> Hi Robert,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> I think it at least worths checking if spark-packages.org
>>>>>> owners
>>>>>> >>>> are
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> willing to share. Thanks for volunteering to write the
>>>>>> requirement
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> descriptions! In any case, that will be very helpful.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> Since a static page has almost no cost, and we will need
>>>>>> it to
>>>>>> >>>> redirect
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> to the dynamic site anyways, how about we first do that
>>>>>> while
>>>>>> >>>> working on
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> the dynamic website?
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> Thanks,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 4:59 AM Ufuk Celebi <[hidden email]
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> I like Shaoxuan's idea to keep this a static site first.
>>>>>> We
>>>>>> >>>> could then
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> iterate on this and make it a dynamic thing. Of course,
>>>>>> if we
>>>>>> >>>> have the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> resources in the community to quickly start with a
>>>>>> dynamic site,
>>>>>> >>>> I'm
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> not apposed.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> – Ufuk
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 2:31 PM Robert Metzger <
>>>>>> >>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > Awesome! Thanks a lot for looking into this Becket! The
>>>>>> VMs
>>>>>> >>>> hosted by
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> Infra
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > look suitable.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > @Shaoxuan: There is actually already a static page. It
>>>>>> used to
>>>>>> >>>> be
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> linked,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > but has been removed from the navigation bar for some
>>>>>> reason.
>>>>>> >>>> This is
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > page: https://flink.apache.org/ecosystem.html
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > We could update the page and add it back to the
>>>>>> navigation bar
>>>>>> >>>> for the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > coming weeks. What do you think?
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > I would actually like to push for a dynamic page right
>>>>>> away.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > I know it's kind of a bold move, but how do you feel
>>>>>> about
>>>>>> >>>> sending the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > owners of spark-packages.org a short note, if they are
>>>>>> >>>> interested in
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > sharing the source? We could maintain the code together
>>>>>> in a
>>>>>> >>>> public
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> repo.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > If they are not interested in sharing, or we decide not
>>>>>> to ask
>>>>>> >>>> in the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> first
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > place, I'm happy to write down a short description of
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> >>>> requirements,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > maybe some mockups. We could then see if we find
>>>>>> somebody here
>>>>>> >>>> in the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > community who's willing to implement it.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > Given the number of people who are eager to contribute,
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> >>>> believe we
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> will
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > be able to find somebody pretty soon.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 3:49 AM Becket Qin <
>>>>>> >>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > > Forgot to provide the link...
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > > [1] https://www.apache.org/dev/services.html#blogs
>>>>>> (Apache
>>>>>> >>>> infra
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> services)
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > > [2] https://www.apache.org/dev/freebsd-jails
>>>>>> (FreeBSD Jail
>>>>>> >>>> provided
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> by
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > > Apache Infra)
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > > On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 10:46 AM Becket Qin <
>>>>>> >>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> Hi Robert,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> Thanks for the feedback. These are good points. We
>>>>>> should
>>>>>> >>>> absolutely
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> shoot for a dynamic website to support more
>>>>>> interactions in
>>>>>> >>>> the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> community.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> There might be a few things to solve:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> 1. The website code itself. An open source solution
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> >>>> be great.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> TBH,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> I do not have much experience on building a website.
>>>>>> It'll
>>>>>> >>>> be great
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> if
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> someone could help comment on the solution here.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> 2. The hardware to host the website. Apache Infra
>>>>>> provides
>>>>>> >>>> a few
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> services[1] that Apache projects can leverage. I did
>>>>>> not see
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> database
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> service, but maybe we can run a simple MySQL db in
>>>>>> FreeBSD
>>>>>> >>>> jail[2].
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> @Bowen & vino, thanks for the positive feedback!
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> @Shaoxuan Wang <[hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> Thanks for the suggestion. That sounds reasonable to
>>>>>> me. We
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> probably need
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> a page in the Flink official site anyways, even just
>>>>>> >>>> provide links
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> it to
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> the ecosystem website. So listing the connectors in
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> >>>> static
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> page seems
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> something we could start with while we are working
>>>>>> on the
>>>>>> >>>> dynamic
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> pages.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> Thanks,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 10:40 AM Shaoxuan Wang <
>>>>>> >>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> Hi Becket and Robert,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> I like this idea!  Let us roll this out with Flink
>>>>>> >>>> connectors at
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> first beginning. We can start with a static page,
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> >>>> upgrade it
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> when we
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> find a better solution for dynamic one with rich
>>>>>> functions.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> Regards,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> Shaoxuan
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 1:36 AM Robert Metzger <
>>>>>> >>>> [hidden email]
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> Hey Becket,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> This is a great idea!
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> For this to be successful, we need to make sure
>>>>>> the page
>>>>>> >>>> is placed
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> prominently so that the people submitting
>>>>>> something will
>>>>>> >>>> get
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> attention for
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> their contributions.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> I think a dynamic site would probably be better,
>>>>>> if we
>>>>>> >>>> want
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> features
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> such as up and downvoting or comments.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> I would also like this to be hosted on Apache
>>>>>> infra, and
>>>>>> >>>> endorsed
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> by
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> the community.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> Does anybody here know any existing software that
>>>>>> we
>>>>>> >>>> could use?
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> The only think I was able to find is AUR:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> https://aur.archlinux.org/
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> (which is a community packages site for Arch
>>>>>> Linux. The
>>>>>> >>>> source
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> code of this
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> portal is open source, but the layout and
>>>>>> structure is
>>>>>> >>>> not an
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> ideal fit for
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> our requirements)
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> Best,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> Robert
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 12:03 PM Becket Qin <
>>>>>> >>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> I would like to start a discussion thread about
>>>>>> creating
>>>>>> >>>> a Flink
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> ecosystem website. The website aims to help
>>>>>> contributors
>>>>>> >>>> who
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> have developed
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> projects around Flink share their work with the
>>>>>> >>>> community.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Please see the following doc for more details.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/12oCItoLbKrLGuwEUFcCfigezIR2hW3925j1hh3kGp4A/edit#
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> --
>>>>>> >>>> Best regards / Met vriendelijke groeten,
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Niels Basjes
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>

[rmetzger0]

Hey Daryl,

thanks a lot for posting a link to this first prototype on the mailing list! I really like it!

Becket: Our plan forward is that Congxian is implementing the backend for the website.

@Congxian: Do you need any help?

On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 7:59 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi Daryl,

Thanks a lot for the update. The site looks awesome! This is a great progress. I really like the conciseness of GUI.

One minor suggestion is that for the same library, there might be multiple versions compatible with different Flink versions. It would be good to show that somewhere in the project page as it seems important to the users.

BTW, will you share the plan to move forward? Would additional hands help?

Thanks,

Jiangjie (Becket) Qin

On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 7:10 PM Daryl Roberts <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Shall we add a guide page to show people how to publish their projects to the website? The exact rules can be discussed and drafted in a separate email thread IMO

This is a good idea. (Both the guise, and separate thread), I think once there is an actual packed in place we’ll be in a lot better position to discuss this. 

> The "Log in with Github" link doesn't seem to work yet. Will it only allow login for admins and publishers, or for everyone?

Correct, all the oauth stuff requires a real server. We are currently just faking everything.

I will add a mock-login page (username/password that just accepts anything and displays whatever username you type in) so we can see the add-comment field and add-packages page once they exist. 

On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 18:45 Bowen Li <[hidden email]> wrote:

Fancy, thanks Daryl! I can definitely tell Fresh Bacon and Frozen Tuna gonna be some big killer connectors :)

A couple feedbacks:

• Shall we add a guide page to show people how to publish their projects to the website? The exact rules can be discussed and drafted in a separate email thread IMO
  
• The "Log in with Github" link doesn't seem to work yet. Will it only allow login for admins and publishers, or for everyone?

Cheers! Bowen

On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 6:28 AM Oytun Tez <[hidden email]> wrote:

Yep, I guessed so... Good luck! :)

On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 9:22 AM Daryl Roberts <[hidden email]> wrote:

I can definitely tweak the new on to come closer to matching the styles of the other 2.

I think all 3 sites are built with different UI frameworks, so to make them all identical might be a bit difficult, but we can get them closer :)

On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 3:17 PM Oytun Tez <[hidden email]> wrote:

Daryl, looks very good, thank you! 

Only one feedback, I am attaching an image with 3 screenshots of the left sidebar from 3 sites: 

• https://flink.apache.org/
• https://ci.apache.org/projects/flink/flink-docs-release-1.8/
• https://flink-ecosystem-demo.flink-resources.org/#/packages
  

SS:

Maybe we can try to consolidate the sidebar in all 3 sites? This may be overreaching to homepage and doc maintainers as well. If that's a too involved process, perhaps the sidebar can at least have a gray background.

Thank you again!

On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 8:52 AM Daryl Roberts <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hello all,

We have deployed the first version of the UI prototype to the following URL: https://flink-ecosystem-demo.flink-resources.org/#/packages

It has some very basic functionality:

* list packages

* list packages by 'category'

* show a single package

* search that will take you to a search page

The data is all fake, and generated new every time, so even if you click on a package name, and the URL says one thing, the package data itself will be different (and change every time you refresh).

None of this is final, but we thought it would be a good idea for you all to see what we have so far.

If you have any feedback, please let us know.

Thanks,

-daryl

On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 7:18 PM Oytun Tez <[hidden email]> wrote:

Thank you, all! If there are operational tasks about the ecosystem page(s), let me know (organizing the content etc, whatever).

On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 2:14 PM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:

Thanks for the update Robert! Looking forward to the prototype! 

On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 10:07 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]> wrote:

Quick summary of our call:
Daryl will soon start with a front end, build against a very simple
mock-backend.
Congxian will start implementing the Spring-based backend early April.

As soon as the first prototype of the UI is ready, we'll share it here for
feedback.

On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 10:08 AM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Okay, great.
>
> Congxian Qiu, Daryl and I have a kick-off call later today at 2pm CET, 9pm
> China time about the design of the ecosystem page (see:
> https://github.com/rmetzger/flink-community-tools/issues/4)
> Please let me know if others want to join as well, I can add them to the
> invite.
>
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 4:10 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> I agree. We can start with english-only and see how it goes. The comments
>> and descriptions can always be multi-lingual but that is up to the package
>> owners.
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 6:07 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Do we actually want this page to be multi-language?
>>>
>>> I propose to make the website english-only, but maybe consider allowing
>>> comments in different languages.
>>> If we would make it multi-language, then we might have problems with
>>> people submitting packages in non-english languages.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 2:42 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Done. The writeup looks great!
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 9:09 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Nice, really good news on the INFRA front!
>>>>> I think the hardware specs sound reasonable. And a periodic backup of
>>>>> the website's database to Infra's backup solution sounds reasonable too.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you accept and review my proposal for the website?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 3:47 PM Becket Qin <[hidden email]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > I have a very capable and motivated frontend developer who would be
>>>>>> > willing to implement what I've mocked in my proposal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is awesome!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I created a Jira ticket[1] to Apache Infra and got the reply. It
>>>>>> looks that
>>>>>> Apache infra team could provide a decent VM. The last piece is how to
>>>>>> ensure the data is persisted so we won't lose the project info / user
>>>>>> feedbacks when the VM is down. If Apache infra does not provide a
>>>>>> persistent storage for DB backup, we can always ask for multiple VMs
>>>>>> and do
>>>>>> the fault tolerance by ourselves. It seems we can almost say the
>>>>>> hardware
>>>>>> side is also ready.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18010
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 5:39 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > Thank you for reaching out to Infra and the ember client.
>>>>>> > When I first saw the Ember repository, I thought it is the whole
>>>>>> thing
>>>>>> > (frontend and backend), but while testing it, I realized it is
>>>>>> "only" the
>>>>>> > frontend. I'm not sure if it makes sense to adjust the Ember
>>>>>> observer
>>>>>> > client, or just write a simple UI from scratch.
>>>>>> > I have a very capable and motivated frontend developer who would be
>>>>>> > willing to implement what I've mocked in my proposal.
>>>>>> > In addition, I found somebody (Congxian Qiu) who seems to be eager
>>>>>> to help
>>>>>> > with this project for the backend:
>>>>>> > https://github.com/rmetzger/flink-community-tools/issues/4
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > For Infra: I made the same experience when asking for more GitHub
>>>>>> > permissions for "flinkbot": They didn't respond on their mailing
>>>>>> list, only
>>>>>> > on Jira.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 2:45 PM Becket Qin <[hidden email]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> Thanks for writing up the specifications.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Regarding the website source code, Austin found a website[1] whose
>>>>>> >> frontend code[2] is available publicly. It lacks some support (e.g
>>>>>> login),
>>>>>> >> but it is still a good starting point. One thing is that I did not
>>>>>> find a
>>>>>> >> License statement for that source code. I'll reach out to the
>>>>>> author to see
>>>>>> >> if they have any concern over our usage.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Apache Infra has not replied to my email regarding some details
>>>>>> about the
>>>>>> >> VM. I'll open an infra Jira ticket tomorrow if there is still no
>>>>>> response.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Thanks,
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> [1] https://emberobserver.com/
>>>>>> >> [2] https://github.com/emberobserver/client
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 1:35 AM Robert Metzger <
>>>>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>> @Bowen: I agree. Confluent Hub looks nicer, but it is on their
>>>>>> company
>>>>>> >>> website. I guess the likelihood that they give out code from
>>>>>> their company
>>>>>> >>> website is fairly low.
>>>>>> >>> @Nils: Beam's page is similar to our Ecosystem page, which we'll
>>>>>> >>> reactivate as part of this PR:
>>>>>> >>> https://github.com/apache/flink-web/pull/187
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Spark-packages.org did not respond to my request.
>>>>>> >>> I will propose a short specification in Becket's initial document.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 11:38 AM Niels Basjes <[hidden email]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>> Hi,
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> The Beam project has something in this area that is simply a page
>>>>>> >>>> within their documentation website:
>>>>>> >>>> https://beam.apache.org/documentation/sdks/java-thirdparty/
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Niels Basjes
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 11:39 PM Bowen Li <[hidden email]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >
>>>>>> >>>> > Confluent hub for Kafka is another good example of this kind. I
>>>>>> >>>> personally like it over the spark site. May worth checking it
>>>>>> out with
>>>>>> >>>> Kafka folks
>>>>>> >>>> >
>>>>>> >>>> > On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 6:06 AM Becket Qin <
>>>>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> Absolutely! Thanks for the pointer. I'll submit a PR to
>>>>>> update the
>>>>>> >>>> >> ecosystem page and the navigation.
>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> Thanks,
>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 8:47 PM Robert Metzger <
>>>>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> > Okay. I will reach out to spark-packages.org and see if
>>>>>> they are
>>>>>> >>>> willing
>>>>>> >>>> >> > to share.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> > Do you want to raise a PR to update the ecosystem page
>>>>>> (maybe sync
>>>>>> >>>> with
>>>>>> >>>> >> > the "Software Projects" listed here:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/Powered+by+Flink)
>>>>>> >>>> and
>>>>>> >>>> >> > link it in the navigation?
>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> > Best,
>>>>>> >>>> >> > Robert
>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> > On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 10:13 AM Becket Qin <
>>>>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> Hi Robert,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> I think it at least worths checking if spark-packages.org
>>>>>> owners
>>>>>> >>>> are
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> willing to share. Thanks for volunteering to write the
>>>>>> requirement
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> descriptions! In any case, that will be very helpful.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> Since a static page has almost no cost, and we will need
>>>>>> it to
>>>>>> >>>> redirect
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> to the dynamic site anyways, how about we first do that
>>>>>> while
>>>>>> >>>> working on
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> the dynamic website?
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> Thanks,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >> On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 4:59 AM Ufuk Celebi <[hidden email]
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> I like Shaoxuan's idea to keep this a static site first.
>>>>>> We
>>>>>> >>>> could then
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> iterate on this and make it a dynamic thing. Of course,
>>>>>> if we
>>>>>> >>>> have the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> resources in the community to quickly start with a
>>>>>> dynamic site,
>>>>>> >>>> I'm
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> not apposed.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> – Ufuk
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 2:31 PM Robert Metzger <
>>>>>> >>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > Awesome! Thanks a lot for looking into this Becket! The
>>>>>> VMs
>>>>>> >>>> hosted by
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> Infra
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > look suitable.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > @Shaoxuan: There is actually already a static page. It
>>>>>> used to
>>>>>> >>>> be
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> linked,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > but has been removed from the navigation bar for some
>>>>>> reason.
>>>>>> >>>> This is
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > page: https://flink.apache.org/ecosystem.html
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > We could update the page and add it back to the
>>>>>> navigation bar
>>>>>> >>>> for the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > coming weeks. What do you think?
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > I would actually like to push for a dynamic page right
>>>>>> away.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > I know it's kind of a bold move, but how do you feel
>>>>>> about
>>>>>> >>>> sending the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > owners of spark-packages.org a short note, if they are
>>>>>> >>>> interested in
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > sharing the source? We could maintain the code together
>>>>>> in a
>>>>>> >>>> public
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> repo.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > If they are not interested in sharing, or we decide not
>>>>>> to ask
>>>>>> >>>> in the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> first
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > place, I'm happy to write down a short description of
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> >>>> requirements,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > maybe some mockups. We could then see if we find
>>>>>> somebody here
>>>>>> >>>> in the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > community who's willing to implement it.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > Given the number of people who are eager to contribute,
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> >>>> believe we
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> will
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > be able to find somebody pretty soon.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 3:49 AM Becket Qin <
>>>>>> >>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > > Forgot to provide the link...
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > > [1] https://www.apache.org/dev/services.html#blogs
>>>>>> (Apache
>>>>>> >>>> infra
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> services)
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > > [2] https://www.apache.org/dev/freebsd-jails
>>>>>> (FreeBSD Jail
>>>>>> >>>> provided
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> by
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > > Apache Infra)
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > > On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 10:46 AM Becket Qin <
>>>>>> >>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> Hi Robert,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> Thanks for the feedback. These are good points. We
>>>>>> should
>>>>>> >>>> absolutely
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> shoot for a dynamic website to support more
>>>>>> interactions in
>>>>>> >>>> the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> community.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> There might be a few things to solve:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> 1. The website code itself. An open source solution
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> >>>> be great.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> TBH,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> I do not have much experience on building a website.
>>>>>> It'll
>>>>>> >>>> be great
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> if
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> someone could help comment on the solution here.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> 2. The hardware to host the website. Apache Infra
>>>>>> provides
>>>>>> >>>> a few
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> services[1] that Apache projects can leverage. I did
>>>>>> not see
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> database
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> service, but maybe we can run a simple MySQL db in
>>>>>> FreeBSD
>>>>>> >>>> jail[2].
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> @Bowen & vino, thanks for the positive feedback!
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> @Shaoxuan Wang <[hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> Thanks for the suggestion. That sounds reasonable to
>>>>>> me. We
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> probably need
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> a page in the Flink official site anyways, even just
>>>>>> >>>> provide links
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> it to
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> the ecosystem website. So listing the connectors in
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> >>>> static
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> page seems
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> something we could start with while we are working
>>>>>> on the
>>>>>> >>>> dynamic
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> pages.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> Thanks,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 10:40 AM Shaoxuan Wang <
>>>>>> >>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> Hi Becket and Robert,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> I like this idea!  Let us roll this out with Flink
>>>>>> >>>> connectors at
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> the
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> first beginning. We can start with a static page,
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> >>>> upgrade it
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> when we
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> find a better solution for dynamic one with rich
>>>>>> functions.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> Regards,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> Shaoxuan
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 1:36 AM Robert Metzger <
>>>>>> >>>> [hidden email]
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> Hey Becket,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> This is a great idea!
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> For this to be successful, we need to make sure
>>>>>> the page
>>>>>> >>>> is placed
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> prominently so that the people submitting
>>>>>> something will
>>>>>> >>>> get
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> attention for
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> their contributions.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> I think a dynamic site would probably be better,
>>>>>> if we
>>>>>> >>>> want
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> features
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> such as up and downvoting or comments.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> I would also like this to be hosted on Apache
>>>>>> infra, and
>>>>>> >>>> endorsed
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> by
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> the community.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> Does anybody here know any existing software that
>>>>>> we
>>>>>> >>>> could use?
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> The only think I was able to find is AUR:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> https://aur.archlinux.org/
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> (which is a community packages site for Arch
>>>>>> Linux. The
>>>>>> >>>> source
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> code of this
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> portal is open source, but the layout and
>>>>>> structure is
>>>>>> >>>> not an
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> ideal fit for
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> our requirements)
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> Best,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> Robert
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 12:03 PM Becket Qin <
>>>>>> >>>> [hidden email]>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> I would like to start a discussion thread about
>>>>>> creating
>>>>>> >>>> a Flink
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> ecosystem website. The website aims to help
>>>>>> contributors
>>>>>> >>>> who
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> have developed
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> projects around Flink share their work with the
>>>>>> >>>> community.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Please see the following doc for more details.
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/12oCItoLbKrLGuwEUFcCfigezIR2hW3925j1hh3kGp4A/edit#
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>> > >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> --
>>>>>> >>>> Best regards / Met vriendelijke groeten,
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Niels Basjes
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>

[rmetzger0]

Hey Daryl,

thanks a lot for posting a link to this first prototype on the mailing list! I really like it!

Becket: Our plan forward is that Congxian is implementing the backend for the website. He has already started with the work, but needs at least one more week.

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On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 7:59 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi Daryl,

Thanks a lot for the update. The site looks awesome! This is a great progress. I really like the conciseness of GUI.

One minor suggestion is that for the same library, there might be multiple versions compatible with different Flink versions. It would be good to show that somewhere in the project page as it seems important to the users.

BTW, will you share the plan to move forward? Would additional hands help?

Thanks,

Jiangjie (Becket) Qin

On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 7:10 PM Daryl Roberts <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Shall we add a guide page to show people how to publish their projects to the website? The exact rules can be discussed and drafted in a separate email thread IMO

This is a good idea. (Both the guise, and separate thread), I think once there is an actual packed in place we’ll be in a lot better position to discuss this. 

> The "Log in with Github" link doesn't seem to work yet. Will it only allow login for admins and publishers, or for everyone?

Correct, all the oauth stuff requires a real server. We are currently just faking everything.

I will add a mock-login page (username/password that just accepts anything and displays whatever username you type in) so we can see the add-comment field and add-packages page once they exist. 

[rmetzger0]

Hey all,

quick update on this project: The frontend and backend code have been put together into this repository: https://github.com/sorahn/flink-ecosystem

We also just agreed on an API specification, and will now work on finishing the backend.

It will probably take a few more weeks for this to finish, but we are making progress :)

Best,

Robert

On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 11:18 AM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hey Daryl,

thanks a lot for posting a link to this first prototype on the mailing list! I really like it!

Becket: Our plan forward is that Congxian is implementing the backend for the website. He has already started with the work, but needs at least one more week.

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On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 7:59 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi Daryl,

Thanks a lot for the update. The site looks awesome! This is a great progress. I really like the conciseness of GUI.

One minor suggestion is that for the same library, there might be multiple versions compatible with different Flink versions. It would be good to show that somewhere in the project page as it seems important to the users.

BTW, will you share the plan to move forward? Would additional hands help?

Thanks,

Jiangjie (Becket) Qin

On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 7:10 PM Daryl Roberts <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Shall we add a guide page to show people how to publish their projects to the website? The exact rules can be discussed and drafted in a separate email thread IMO

This is a good idea. (Both the guise, and separate thread), I think once there is an actual packed in place we’ll be in a lot better position to discuss this. 

> The "Log in with Github" link doesn't seem to work yet. Will it only allow login for admins and publishers, or for everyone?

Correct, all the oauth stuff requires a real server. We are currently just faking everything.

I will add a mock-login page (username/password that just accepts anything and displays whatever username you type in) so we can see the add-comment field and add-packages page once they exist. 

[Becket Qin]

Thanks for the update, Robert. Looking forward to the website. If there is already a list of software we need to run the website, we can ask Apache infra team to prepare the VM for us, as that may also take some time.

On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 11:57 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hey all,

quick update on this project: The frontend and backend code have been put together into this repository: https://github.com/sorahn/flink-ecosystem

We also just agreed on an API specification, and will now work on finishing the backend.

It will probably take a few more weeks for this to finish, but we are making progress :)

Best,

Robert

On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 11:18 AM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hey Daryl,

thanks a lot for posting a link to this first prototype on the mailing list! I really like it!

Becket: Our plan forward is that Congxian is implementing the backend for the website. He has already started with the work, but needs at least one more week.

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On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 7:59 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi Daryl,

Thanks a lot for the update. The site looks awesome! This is a great progress. I really like the conciseness of GUI.

One minor suggestion is that for the same library, there might be multiple versions compatible with different Flink versions. It would be good to show that somewhere in the project page as it seems important to the users.

BTW, will you share the plan to move forward? Would additional hands help?

Thanks,

Jiangjie (Becket) Qin

On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 7:10 PM Daryl Roberts <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Shall we add a guide page to show people how to publish their projects to the website? The exact rules can be discussed and drafted in a separate email thread IMO

This is a good idea. (Both the guise, and separate thread), I think once there is an actual packed in place we’ll be in a lot better position to discuss this. 

> The "Log in with Github" link doesn't seem to work yet. Will it only allow login for admins and publishers, or for everyone?

Correct, all the oauth stuff requires a real server. We are currently just faking everything.

I will add a mock-login page (username/password that just accepts anything and displays whatever username you type in) so we can see the add-comment field and add-packages page once they exist. 

[rmetzger0]

Hey all,

Daryl and I have great news to share. We are about to finish adding the basic features to the ecosystem page.

We are at a stage where it is ready to be reviewed and made public.

You can either check out a development instance of the ecosystem page here: https://flink-ecosystem-demo.flink-resources.org/

Or you run it locally, with the instructions from the README.md: https://github.com/sorahn/flink-ecosystem 

Please report all issues you find here: https://github.com/sorahn/flink-ecosystem/issues or in this thread.

The next steps in this project are the following:

- We fix all issues reported through this testing

- We set up the site on the INFRA resources Becket has secured [1], do some further testing (including email notifications) and pre-fill the page with some packages.

- We set up a packages.flink.apache.org or flink.apache.org/packages domain

- We announce the packages through a short blog post

Happy testing!

Best,

Robert

[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18010

On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 6:23 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:

Thanks for the update, Robert. Looking forward to the website. If there is already a list of software we need to run the website, we can ask Apache infra team to prepare the VM for us, as that may also take some time.

On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 11:57 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hey all,

quick update on this project: The frontend and backend code have been put together into this repository: https://github.com/sorahn/flink-ecosystem

We also just agreed on an API specification, and will now work on finishing the backend.

It will probably take a few more weeks for this to finish, but we are making progress :)

Best,

Robert

On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 11:18 AM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hey Daryl,

thanks a lot for posting a link to this first prototype on the mailing list! I really like it!

Becket: Our plan forward is that Congxian is implementing the backend for the website. He has already started with the work, but needs at least one more week.

[Re-sending this email because the first one was blocked on [hidden email]]

On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 7:59 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi Daryl,

Thanks a lot for the update. The site looks awesome! This is a great progress. I really like the conciseness of GUI.

One minor suggestion is that for the same library, there might be multiple versions compatible with different Flink versions. It would be good to show that somewhere in the project page as it seems important to the users.

BTW, will you share the plan to move forward? Would additional hands help?

Thanks,

Jiangjie (Becket) Qin

On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 7:10 PM Daryl Roberts <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Shall we add a guide page to show people how to publish their projects to the website? The exact rules can be discussed and drafted in a separate email thread IMO

This is a good idea. (Both the guise, and separate thread), I think once there is an actual packed in place we’ll be in a lot better position to discuss this. 

> The "Log in with Github" link doesn't seem to work yet. Will it only allow login for admins and publishers, or for everyone?

Correct, all the oauth stuff requires a real server. We are currently just faking everything.

I will add a mock-login page (username/password that just accepts anything and displays whatever username you type in) so we can see the add-comment field and add-packages page once they exist. 

[Congxian Qiu]

Robert and Daryl, thanks for the great work, I tried the website and filed some issues on Github.

Robert Metzger <[hidden email]> 于2019年7月17日周三 下午11:28写道：

Hey all,

Daryl and I have great news to share. We are about to finish adding the basic features to the ecosystem page.

We are at a stage where it is ready to be reviewed and made public.

You can either check out a development instance of the ecosystem page here: https://flink-ecosystem-demo.flink-resources.org/

Or you run it locally, with the instructions from the README.md: https://github.com/sorahn/flink-ecosystem 

Please report all issues you find here: https://github.com/sorahn/flink-ecosystem/issues or in this thread.

The next steps in this project are the following:

- We fix all issues reported through this testing

- We set up the site on the INFRA resources Becket has secured [1], do some further testing (including email notifications) and pre-fill the page with some packages.

- We set up a packages.flink.apache.org or flink.apache.org/packages domain

- We announce the packages through a short blog post

Happy testing!

Best,

Robert

[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18010

On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 6:23 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:

Thanks for the update, Robert. Looking forward to the website. If there is already a list of software we need to run the website, we can ask Apache infra team to prepare the VM for us, as that may also take some time.

On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 11:57 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hey all,

quick update on this project: The frontend and backend code have been put together into this repository: https://github.com/sorahn/flink-ecosystem

We also just agreed on an API specification, and will now work on finishing the backend.

It will probably take a few more weeks for this to finish, but we are making progress :)

Best,

Robert

On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 11:18 AM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hey Daryl,

thanks a lot for posting a link to this first prototype on the mailing list! I really like it!

Becket: Our plan forward is that Congxian is implementing the backend for the website. He has already started with the work, but needs at least one more week.

[Re-sending this email because the first one was blocked on [hidden email]]

On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 7:59 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi Daryl,

Thanks a lot for the update. The site looks awesome! This is a great progress. I really like the conciseness of GUI.

One minor suggestion is that for the same library, there might be multiple versions compatible with different Flink versions. It would be good to show that somewhere in the project page as it seems important to the users.

BTW, will you share the plan to move forward? Would additional hands help?

Thanks,

Jiangjie (Becket) Qin

On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 7:10 PM Daryl Roberts <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Shall we add a guide page to show people how to publish their projects to the website? The exact rules can be discussed and drafted in a separate email thread IMO

This is a good idea. (Both the guise, and separate thread), I think once there is an actual packed in place we’ll be in a lot better position to discuss this. 

> The "Log in with Github" link doesn't seem to work yet. Will it only allow login for admins and publishers, or for everyone?

Correct, all the oauth stuff requires a real server. We are currently just faking everything.

I will add a mock-login page (username/password that just accepts anything and displays whatever username you type in) so we can see the add-comment field and add-packages page once they exist. 

[Marta Paes Moreira]

Hey, Robert.

I will keep an eye on the overall progress and get started on the blog post to make the community announcement. Are there (mid-term) plans to translate/localize this website as well? It might be a point worth mentioning in the blogpost.

Hats off to you and Daryl — this turned out amazing!

Marta

On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 10:57 AM Congxian Qiu <[hidden email]> wrote:

Robert and Daryl, thanks for the great work, I tried the website and filed some issues on Github.

Robert Metzger <[hidden email]> 于2019年7月17日周三 下午11:28写道：

Hey all,

Daryl and I have great news to share. We are about to finish adding the basic features to the ecosystem page.

We are at a stage where it is ready to be reviewed and made public.

You can either check out a development instance of the ecosystem page here: https://flink-ecosystem-demo.flink-resources.org/

Or you run it locally, with the instructions from the README.md: https://github.com/sorahn/flink-ecosystem 

Please report all issues you find here: https://github.com/sorahn/flink-ecosystem/issues or in this thread.

The next steps in this project are the following:

- We fix all issues reported through this testing

- We set up the site on the INFRA resources Becket has secured [1], do some further testing (including email notifications) and pre-fill the page with some packages.

- We set up a packages.flink.apache.org or flink.apache.org/packages domain

- We announce the packages through a short blog post

Happy testing!

Best,

Robert

[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18010

On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 6:23 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:

Thanks for the update, Robert. Looking forward to the website. If there is already a list of software we need to run the website, we can ask Apache infra team to prepare the VM for us, as that may also take some time.

On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 11:57 PM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hey all,

quick update on this project: The frontend and backend code have been put together into this repository: https://github.com/sorahn/flink-ecosystem

We also just agreed on an API specification, and will now work on finishing the backend.

It will probably take a few more weeks for this to finish, but we are making progress :)

Best,

Robert

On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 11:18 AM Robert Metzger <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hey Daryl,

thanks a lot for posting a link to this first prototype on the mailing list! I really like it!

Becket: Our plan forward is that Congxian is implementing the backend for the website. He has already started with the work, but needs at least one more week.

[Re-sending this email because the first one was blocked on [hidden email]]

On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 7:59 AM Becket Qin <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi Daryl,

Thanks a lot for the update. The site looks awesome! This is a great progress. I really like the conciseness of GUI.

One minor suggestion is that for the same library, there might be multiple versions compatible with different Flink versions. It would be good to show that somewhere in the project page as it seems important to the users.

BTW, will you share the plan to move forward? Would additional hands help?

Thanks,

Jiangjie (Becket) Qin

On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 7:10 PM Daryl Roberts <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Shall we add a guide page to show people how to publish their projects to the website? The exact rules can be discussed and drafted in a separate email thread IMO

This is a good idea. (Both the guise, and separate thread), I think once there is an actual packed in place we’ll be in a lot better position to discuss this. 

> The "Log in with Github" link doesn't seem to work yet. Will it only allow login for admins and publishers, or for everyone?

Correct, all the oauth stuff requires a real server. We are currently just faking everything.

I will add a mock-login page (username/password that just accepts anything and displays whatever username you type in) so we can see the add-comment field and add-packages page once they exist.