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Re: Flink Checkpoint runs slow for low load stream

Posted by Vinay Patil on
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Hi Stephan,

Ok, I think that may be taking lot of time, so when you say everything that it stores does it mean that all the input to the window  is stored in state backend.

For Ex: for my apply function, the input is is Iterable<DTO>, the DTO can contain multiple elements, and the DTO contains roughly 50 fields

So do you mean that the complete DTO will be stored in the state backend ? If yes then its probably better to use RocksDB as state backend.

Also I am using AWS Client Side Encryption for writing encrypted data to S3, so may be that is also taking some time.

What do you think ?

Regards,
Vinay Patil

On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 3:51 AM, Stephan Ewen [via Apache Flink User Mailing List archive.] <[hidden email]> wrote:
@vinay - Window operators store everything in the state backend.

On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 7:34 PM, vinay patil <[hidden email]> wrote:
I am not sure about that, I will run the pipeline on cluster and share the details
Since window is a stateful operator , it will store only the key part in the state backend and not the value , right ?

Regards,
Vinay Patil

On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 12:13 PM, Stephan Ewen [via Apache Flink User Mailing List archive.] <[hidden email]> wrote:
@vinay - Is it in your case large state that causes slower checkpoints?

On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 6:17 PM, vinay patil <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi,

I am also facing this issue, in my case the data is flowing continuously from the Kafka source, when I increase the checkpoint interval to 60000, the data gets written to S3 sink.

Is it because some operator is taking more time for processing, like in my case I am using a time window of 1sec.

Regards,
Vinay Patil

On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 10:08 AM, Chakravarthy varaga [via Apache Flink User Mailing List archive.] <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Stefan,

    Please find my responses below.

    - What source are you using for the slow input?
     [CVP] - Both stream as pointed out in my first mail, are Kafka Streams
  - How large is the state that you are checkpointing?
     [CVP] - I have enabled checkpointing on the StreamEnvironment as below.
         final StreamExecutionEnvironment streamEnv = StreamExecutionEnvironment.getExecutionEnvironment();
         streamEnv.setStateBackend(new FsStateBackend("file:///tmp/flink/checkpoints"));
         streamEnv.enableCheckpointing(10000);

      In terms of the state stored, the KS1 stream has payload of 100K events/second, while KS2 have about 1 event / 10 minutes... basically the operators perform flatmaps on 8 fields of tuple (all fields are primitives). If you look at the states' sizes in dashboard they are in Kb...

  - Can you try to see in the log if actually the state snapshot takes that long, or if it simply takes long for the checkpoint barriers to travel through the stream due to a lot of backpressure?
    [CVP] -There are no back pressure atleast from the sample computation in the flink dashboard. 100K/second is low load for flink's benchmarks. I could not quite get the barriers vs snapshot state. I have attached the Task Manager log (DEBUG) info if that will interest you.
 
     I have attached the checkpoints times' as .png from the dashboard. Basically if you look at checkpoint IDs 28 & 29 &30- you'd see that the checkpoints take more than a minute in each case. Before these checkpoints, the KS2 stream did not have any events. As soon as an event(should be in bytes) was generated, the checkpoints went slow and subsequently a minute more for every checkpoint thereafter.

   This log was collected from the standalone flink cluster with 1 job manager & 2 TMs. 1 TM was running this application with checkpointing (parallelism=1)
 
    Please let me know if you need further info.,
    

On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Stephan Ewen <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi!

Let's try to figure that one out. Can you give us a bit more information?

  - What source are you using for the slow input?
  - How large is the state that you are checkpointing?
  - Can you try to see in the log if actually the state snapshot takes that long, or if it simply takes long for the checkpoint barriers to travel through the stream due to a lot of backpressure?

Greetings,
Stephan



On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 3:35 PM, Fabian Hueske <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi CVP,

I'm not so much familiar with the internals of the checkpointing system, but maybe Stephan (in CC) has an idea what's going on here.

Best, Fabian

2016-09-23 11:33 GMT+02:00 Chakravarthy varaga <[hidden email]>:
Hi Aljoscha & Fabian,

    I have a stream application that has 2 stream source as below.

     KeyedStream<String, String> ks1 = ds1.keyBy("*") ;
     KeyedStream<Tuple2<String, V>, String> ks2 = ds2.flatMap(split T into k-v pairs).keyBy(0);

     ks1.connect(ks2).flatMap(X);
     //X is a CoFlatMapFunction that inserts and removes elements from ks2 into a key-value state member. Elements from ks1 are matched against that state. the CoFlatMapFunction operator maintains ValueState<Tuple2<Long, Long>>;

     //ks1 is streaming about 100K events/sec from kafka topic
     //ks2 is streaming about 1 event every 10 minutes... Precisely when the 1st event is consumed from this stream, checkpoint takes 2 minutes straight away.

    The version of flink is 1.1.2.

I tried to use checkpoint every 10 Secs using a FsStateBackend... What I notice is that the checkpoint duration is almost 2 minutes for many cases, while for the other cases it varies from 100 ms to 1.5 minutes frequently. I'm attaching the snapshot of the dashboard for your reference.

     Is this an issue with flink checkpointing?

 Best Regards
CVP




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