Re: FoldFunction accumulator checkpointing

Posted by Aljoscha Krettek on
URL: http://deprecated-apache-flink-user-mailing-list-archive.369.s1.nabble.com/FoldFunction-accumulator-checkpointing-tp6068p6075.html

Hi,
there are two cases where a FoldFunction can be used in the streaming API: KeyedStream.fold() and WindowedStream.fold()/apply(). In both cases we internally use the partitioned state abstraction of Flink to keep the state. So yes, the accumulator value is consistently maintained and will survive failures.

Right now, the accumulation function of a window cannot be a rich function because the underlying state primitives that the windowing system uses can only take plain functions because supporting rich functions there could have problematic implications. The most obvious one to me seems that users could be trying to keep state in the ReduceFunction of a ReducingState when given the chance to do so, which a RichFunction does.

This is just off the top of my head but I can go into detail if you want.

Cheers,
Aljoscha

On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 at 00:29 Michael Radford <[hidden email]> wrote:
I'm wondering whether the accumulator value maintained by a
FoldFunction is automatically checkpointed?

In general, but specifically when using the WindowedStream.apply
variant that takes a FoldFunction:

public <R> DataStream<R> apply(R initialValue,
                      FoldFunction<T,R> foldFunction,
                      WindowFunction<R,R,K,W> function,
                      TypeInformation<R> evidence$7)

If not, then Flink 1.0.1 still has the issue that you can't pass a
RichFoldFunction to WindowedStream.apply
(java.lang.UnsupportedOperationException: ReduceFunction of apply can
not be a RichFunction).

But also, if not, it seems like this would be a common pattern when
doing complex (keyed / multi-valued) aggregations, and if the
accumulator type R is serializable, there could be a convenience
method for a checkpointed fold, like the mapWithState mentioned in the
State section of the streaming guide.

Thanks,
Mike