Fwd: would you join a Slack workspace for Flink?

Posted by Dominik Wosiński on
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From: Dominik Wosiński <[hidden email]>
Date: niedz., 26 sie 2018 o 15:12
Subject: ODP: would you join a Slack workspace for Flink?
To: Hequn Cheng <[hidden email]>


Hey,
I have been facing this issue for multiple open source projects and discussions. Slack in my opinion has two main issues :

             - the already mentioned issue with searching, through search engine

             - Slack is still commercial application.

The second issue is quite important, because for free version Slack gives 10k messages of history. I personally think that for Flink this would to loss all messages that are older than a week possibly. This is the big issue as it woul most certainly lead to asking the same questions over and over again. I’ve seen really big slack groups for some big projects where the history would last like 3-4 days and this is pure nightmare.

The better solution would be to use gitter than Slack IMHO if there is need for such way of communication.

Best Regards,
Dominik.

 

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Temat: Re: would you join a Slack workspace for Flink?

 

Hi Nicos,

 

Thanks for bring up this discussion. :-)

Slack is a good way to communicate, but it seems not very fit for the open source field. The messages on Slack are mixed up and can not be searched through search engine.

 

Best, Hequn

 

On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 7:22 PM Nicos Maris <[hidden email]> wrote:

Chesnay can you take a look at the following PR?

 

 

On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 1:09 PM Chesnay Schepler <[hidden email]> wrote:

There have been previous discussions around using slack and they were rejected.

Personally I would just remove the IRC channel; I'm not aware of any committer actually spending time there.

On 25.08.2018 17:07, Nicos Maris wrote:

 

Hi all,

 

 

This mailing list is for user support and questions. If you would also use slack for user support and questions, then please vote at the following ticket. If you don't have an account at that jira, you can reply to this email with a "+1".

 

 

[FLINK-10217] use Slack for user support and questions

 

Current status

For user support and questions, users are instructed to subscribe to [hidden email] but there are users like me who enjoy using also a chat channel. However, the instructions to do so are not clear and the IRC activity is low and it is definitely not indicative of the project's activity.

The website mentions that "If you want to talk with the Flink committers and users in a chat, there is an IRC channel."

Option 1: Use Slack

An example of an Apache project that is using Slack is: http://mesos.apache.org/community

I can assist on setting it up if at least one expert joins from the very beginning.

Option 2: Keep using IRC and document it

Add the missing section at the website along with instructions for people who have never used IRC.

Option 3: Use only the mailing list

Use only [hidden email] for user support and questions and do not mention IRC at the website.